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hey guys , just a question to anyone , but has anyone ever been able to clock their gpu / cpu higher because of less heat.....what I mean is , is obviosly if your processor was hitting 100c on air , then you went to water , then you could clock it higher withought killing it....what I mean is , is say you were cooling your processor to a healthy 65c full load @ 3GHZ , but crashed at 3.4ghz @ 68c , now you went water and you can now hit 3.8ghz @ 50c.....then you go to phase change or whatever and you can hit 4.5ghz @ 10c......



etc...

not sure if im explaining myself clearly but would be interesting too see.....

any comments welcome!
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Umm... yes? Isn't this the whole point of better cooling? (Yes)
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any examples???
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any examples???
I'm at 3.6GHz with my water cooling, before I could only get about 3.4GHz.
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any examples???
When I was monkeying with motherboards, when I switched back to the DS3L for the time being, I couldn't boot Windows properly with a 3Ghz OC. Well, till I realized at stock that it was 70c idle, so I just fixed the cooler, and was able to boot a 3Ghz OC again.
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I had my q6600@3.2 for a couple of months; stayed there because of temperature concerns (cpu and chipsets). About a month ago, with Summer approaching and ambient temps going up, my cpu temps went up - sometimes almost 50 C idle. So I got some really powerful fans (~130 cfm Ultra Kaze exhaust, ~110 cfm Slipstream intake). Dropped temps 8-10 C instantly - not just cpu, but also chipsets (e.g. MCP). Emboldened, I punched in 3.4 ghz. Post, into Windows, no problem. Raised cpu volts a notch or two to get Prime95-stable. Temps were still great. Been there since.

In my experience, yes, lowering temps absolutely helped me to turn things up and run faster.
Edited by seward - 5/26/08 at 9:30am
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It would really depend on if the chip is volt-limited or temp-limited. for example, my e2180 seems to be volt-limited if I want to go past 3.5GHz. It does get a bit warm on my zalman, around 62C, but it takes 1.55v to get it to run stable at 3.5GHz (VID is a crappy 1.325v!!!). So going to water or other sorts of cooling likely wouldn't allow me to get much higher since the volts required would be quite dangerous to the long-term life of the processor.

However, on my graphics card, I believe the opposite is true--with better cooling, I seem to be able to run at better clocks, likely due to the voltage regulators not overheating and causing artifacting.
    
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With the stock cooler on my E8400, I was limited to 3.8GHz. With my Xigmatek (stock fan) I can do 4.1-4.2.

For my current clocks on my 8800GTS 512 to be stable, the GPU must remain below 71C.
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I guess it depends if heat is the issue of the OC stopping...

If say you were testing a gpu OC and not artifacts, but the heat was getting way to high or causing artifacts then yes..
But with my gpu's on aftermarket cooling, heat isnt an issue and they dont OC higher because of it, they just run 10c cooler idle an 15c cooler under load.
therefore heat isnt the issue of my OC limit, voltages, or just the gpu limit is.. they lock up long before they overheat, even with stock cooling

So id say it depends on the circumstance.... But I would always run aftermarket highend cooling if OCing..

As for CPU, yes, yes, yes.. I was at 3.15 with my true and single 120mm.

I am at 3.4 with 2 120mm and lapped both true and Q6600. and temps are still 6c lower than they were without lapping and extra 120mm..
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I guess it depends if heat is the issue of the OC stopping...

If say you were testing a gpu OC and not artifacts, but the heat was getting way to high or causing artifacts then yes..
But with my gpu's on aftermarket cooling, heat isnt an issue and they dont OC higher because of it, they just run 10c cooler idle an 15c cooler under load.
therefore heat isnt the issue of my OC limit, voltages, or just the gpu limit is.. they lock up long before they overheat, even with stock cooling

So id say it depends on the circumstance.... But I would always run aftermarket highend cooling if OCing..

As for CPU, yes, yes, yes.. I was at 3.15 with my true and single 120mm.

I am at 3.4 with 2 120mm and lapped both true and Q6600. and temps are still 6c lower than they were without lapping and extra 120mm..
LOL, we have almost exact opposite opinions on this...I find this very entertaining...
    
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