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post #11 of 24
One thing that's cool though is transparent displays. That lets you shut off the LCD lighting and use ambient light. Dunno how effective that would be, though.
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post #12 of 24
a calculator requires less energy to run than a laptop... and not all
calculators run off solar panels alone. just the extreamly simple ones.
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post #13 of 24
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Not very effective, cause it will only prolong the battery life, not charge it.
How is extending your battery life not effective?
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post #14 of 24
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Hey, calculators run off solar panel thingies, and most of the time they're used indoors...
People seem to think that sunlight is the sole power source capable of producing photons for solar cells. Light is photons, so guess what a light bulb does? It's not magic that a solar-powered calculator can work indoors.
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post #15 of 24
Interestingly enough I was in Amsterdam last month and I saw a few people with laptop bags with solar cells covering them. It must work to a point and prolonging a battery is not a bad thing.
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post #16 of 24
Think of this on an Eee PC lol! Your battery would never die!

Edit: and yes, I know it would draw more power than the cells would produce, you don't need to get into technicalities. I'm just saying it will last a long, long time

On a side note though, I think im going to put a mini generator inside one of those hats with a propeller, then run a cable down from it to my ipod. That way I can even look as nerdy as I'll be.
Edited by HugeDink - 5/26/08 at 10:00pm
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post #17 of 24
actually i saw a show on discovery channel and they showed how much the cost and the ease of making those have gone down. They can roll it out as thick as paper... just going off what I saw.
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post #18 of 24
There are a few problems I see with this. First off, light doesn't travel very well through LCD panels. I've got a 15" that I could demonstrate with.

Second, wheres the backlight? If it's in the LCD layer, then it's going to waste energy back into the panel, which will also make the screen darker.

Third, as said, is cost vs. return. Maybe 1-2w of power in prefect conditions and 20% added to the price.
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post #19 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by xHassassin View Post
Hey, calculators run off solar panel thingies, and most of the time they're used indoors...
Think about how much power calculators require. Very, very little. I don't ever remember having to change the batteries on a calculator that was as simple as one that uses solar cells (graphing calculators don't count.)

So that little solar cell you see on a calculator probably produces something like 0.5W. A laptop can use upward of 65W.

Solar cells of any reasonable size are not going to be able to power a laptop as of 2008.

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One thing that's cool though is transparent displays. That lets you shut off the LCD lighting and use ambient light. Dunno how effective that would be, though.
You can turn off the backlight in many laptops, but it's very hard to see. If you mean transparent, as in you can see through the back - I don't think that's physically possible, considering the components that an LCD needs in order to work. But hey, maybe some day...

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There are a few problems I see with this. First off, light doesn't travel very well through LCD panels. I've got a 15" that I could demonstrate with.
Not only that; you need to have the solar panels at the right angle in order to benefit and use the maximum potential that the light source has to offer. If you're using a laptop with the screen vertical, the optimal level is going to be light coming horizontally, that is, perpendicular to the screen.

Basically, the sun's light would have very, very little effect. First, the panels produce such little energy. And on top of that, solar cells on an LCD aren't at the optimal angle. That's a double whammy.

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Originally Posted by Mootsfox View Post
Third, as said, is cost vs. return. Maybe 1-2w of power in prefect conditions and 20% added to the price.
Bingo. This just isn't feasible as of 2008.
post #20 of 24
I'd see this as a good emergency charging option, just in case you're out without your charger and you REALLY need to make a call within the next 30 minutes. Leave it out in the sun for 30 minutes, make the 3 minutes call, and then you're golden.

That's about it though.

You know how some flashlights can get charged by shaking them. Let's to tro incorporate that technology with cellphones. Imagine how much they shake while in your pocket, or if you're on a run.
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