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It's about freaking time someone else stepped up to scare the oil companies. I'm sick of these jacked up gas prices and paying nearly $4 a gallon. I can't wait to read more about this in the near future.
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There's a food crisis in the world at the moment, meaning they will most likely grow A LOT more plants...plants absorb carbon dioxide, which would actually be better for the environment than current methods. I wouldn't go as far as to say the rate of absorption would surpass the amount we pump into the atmosphere, but I'm sure we could get pretty close.
    
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Originally Posted by Jarhead View Post
Why am I putting this on a computer hardware news section? Because this discovery could drop the price of plastic and other petrochemicals even further as it has the potential to make the process of drilling for oil a complete waste of resources. Dear Lord, it could destabilize the entire world energy market.

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59402
Interesting read. I don't think you have the point of putting the source before the thread title down pat, though.

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"They love this. We had one totally recognizable environmentalist from Hollywood say this is everything they ever had hoped for," Bell said. "This could be considered the ultimate recycling of carbon. We are using the energy of the sun through the plant. We're not introducing any new carbon [to the environment]."
Clearly this guy is an idiot. You don't introduce carbon into the environment by burning fossil fuels, either. The carbon is already there... This doesn't do anything for greenhouse gas emissions, contrary to what he implies.
Edited by stargate125645 - 5/26/08 at 9:37pm
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Originally Posted by Sikozu View Post
And OCZedd why do you think a hydrogen powered car needs a large tank of water? The reaction in a PEMFC produces water as a product. Hydrogen plus air gives water.

Anyway back on topic. Actually learn something about hydrogen powered cars before bringing forth your own baseless opionion on the subject.
Yeah thats what I said, that you need a larger tank to go a few miles, so more refills but almost everything else about them is better. I didnt say hydrogen was dangerous.
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What happens if this genteically engineered thing gets loose? Everything suddenly converts to oil? We might need to eat too...Andromeda strain anyone?
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Until we discover some way to create topgrowth soil at the rate that we're consuming it, I wouldn't touch this technology. It's ****ing ridiculous. We can survive without oil. We CANNOT survive without food.
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yeay lets kill the few plants we have left to burn more oil!!

poor aminals their houses go by by
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Just to stay OT:
Most of you guys know how I feel about energy resources and the environment. As a geologist who prepared for a life in the petroleum and environmental industries, it's hard for me to not come off as a know-it-all (insert expletive of choice). It's also hard to stay apolitical as stated in the TOS when discussing this, so I'll stick to the facts.

We have the technolegy to eliminate the use of fossil fuels now. Nuclear fission is a reality, and fusion just around the corner. The wind, waves, and sun provide enormous amounts of energy. All that remains is a way to make these sources portable, clean, and safe. The key is Hydrogen. Hydrogen Fuel Cells have been around for over a hundred years, and the "reverse" of the process, electrolysis even longer. We can easily generate Hydrogen from water, which can be transported by pipe or tank. All we need to implement a Hydrogen economy is infrastructure to deliver it.

Global warming is a reality, indifferent to whether man has contributed to it or not. So is global cooling for that matter. Either could happen at any moment in time- and the geologic evidence of sudden, catastrophic climate chante is overwhelming. In the 4.6 billion years or so of Earth's existence, the climate has varied greatly. The last 100,000 years or so have been relatively cool in comparision to the past. Whatever humans have done to the environment is miniscule, and one might argue insignificant. Life will go on after climate change, the only question of my conscern is will humans be a part of it, will we adapt? IMHO conscern for "global warming" should go far beyond just not producing greenhouse gasses, we need to understand how it can affect us humans' ability to survive, and be prepared to adapt.

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What happens if this genteically engineered thing gets loose? Everything suddenly converts to oil? We might need to eat too...Andromeda strain anyone?
It'll be all good in the end remember? They figured it all out and saved the world. The original was great, made you think. So far the A&E remake has been really good too.

Rep+ for the Andromeda reference.
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This sounds like it could potentially have the same problems that exist with ethanol.

Frankly, I'd rather spend twice as much on fuel than ten times as much on food.

I'm also skeptical of the idea that this could be cardbon neutral, or that it would significantly reduce demand for other sources of oil.

Lots of work and energy has to be expended to grow and process the feed stock for any kind of biofuel production. In many cases, it takes more energy to make ethanol than ethanol contains. The efficency on this new bio crude oil process would have to be pretty damn high to avoid a similar situation.
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