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Not to insult you, but you should make sure you have your facts.

Koolance's new GeForce 9800 GX2 cooler - no mention of aluminum.
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...product_id=675

CPU Waterblock - no mention of aluminum.
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...product_id=664

Radeon HD 3870 X - you guessed - no aluminum.
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...product_id=661
copper and nickel will do the exact same thing over time, dude. When two dissimilar metals come in any form of contact, galvanic corrosion occurs, albeit at differing rates. Get your own facts before undermining mine.
    
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Steel and Aluminum

http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...product_id=599

And it can dissipate 100W of heat. Really? Don't think so. Oh it may be able to but your system would cook!
steel shroud? And yes it can really take 1000 watts of heat. Been tested and used.
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post #23 of 49
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copper and nickel will do the exact same thing over time, dude. When two dissimilar metals come in any form of contact, galvanic corrosion occurs, albeit at differing rates. Get your own facts before undermining mine.
No exposed copper, nothing is exposed to the loop but nickle plating. Of coarse that depends on the radiator your use.
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copper and nickel will do the exact same thing over time, dude. When two dissimilar metals come in any form of contact, galvanic corrosion occurs, albeit at differing rates. Get your own facts before undermining mine.
Barbs are pretty much all nickel plated. Are you saying that pretty much all loops have galvanic corrosion?
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post #25 of 49
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Um no, they stopped using aluminum in any of there products, all of there barbs are interchangable, and everything is plated so galvanic corrosion is impossible in any of there block as of december last year. Keep up on more then just d-tek and danger den water cooling.
Sorry but above I posted a link to their top rad which still uses aluminum. Coating is great until it gets scratched, then it's done.

I love the look of the Koolance systems, way nicer than my current ghetto looking setup, but their claims are off and they still mix metals.
    
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Barbs are pretty much all nickel plated. Are you saying that pretty much all loops have galvanic corrosion?
absolutely

Every loop has some amount of galvanic corrosion; I wouldn't know from experience, since I've never watercooled, but when you mix ANY two dissimilar metals together, you will get galvanic corrosion. The rates differ, though. The problem with Koolance is that they use blocks of un-electroplated nickel and copper, which is why stuff with Koolance in it tends to suffer so badly from galvanic corrosion. Your barbs are electroplated . In essence, they are "protected", so to speak. That isn't to say that the nickel is completely sealed, because there will still be some corrosion; however, with something as small as the barbs in the loop (as opposed to the water block itself), the rate of corrosion is small.
    
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absolutely

Every loop has some amount of galvanic corrosion; I wouldn't know from experience, since I've never watercooled, but when you mix ANY two dissimilar metals together, you will get galvanic corrosion. The rates differ, though. The problem with Koolance is that they use blocks of un-electroplated nickel and copper, which is why stuff with Koolance in it tends to suffer so badly from galvanic corrosion. Your barbs are electroplated . In essence, they are "protected", so to speak. That isn't to say that the nickel is completely sealed, because there will still be some corrosion; however, with something as small as the barbs in the loop (as opposed to the water block itself), the rate of corrosion is small.
Thanks for the explanation, +rep.
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post #28 of 49
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copper and nickel will do the exact same thing over time, dude. When two dissimilar metals come in any form of contact, galvanic corrosion occurs, albeit at differing rates. Get your own facts before undermining mine.
Listen,

I'm going to type this up so that a two year old can understand.

The statement that I was responding to was the following statement written by you.

"Koolance does use aluminum in all of their products."

I NEVER said anything about galvanic corrosion, I was pointing out that you were in error, I proved that with the three items I originally posted, none of them show aluminum being used in the construction.

I never said how good they were, how well they hold up, or if they indeed show galvanic corrosion.

As for me to trying to start a flamewar, since when is pointing out an error considered a flamewar????
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Listen,

I'm going to type this up so that a two year old can understand.

The statement that I was responding to was the following statement written by you.

"Koolance does use aluminum in all of their products."

I NEVER said anything about galvanic corrosion, I was pointing out that you were in error, I proved that with the three items I originally posted, none of them show aluminum being used in the construction.

I never said how good they were, how well they hold up, or if they indeed show galvanic corrosion.

As for me to trying to start a flamewar, since when is pointing out an error considered a flamewar????

As for you trying to start a flamewar?

"Let me type this out so that a two year old can understand."

Yeah, you're definitely here to help people out.


I'm instituting Rule #13 and leaving this alone.

EDIT: Apparently it's rule #14 now.... ( see the rules )
Edited by SentryOptic - 5/27/08 at 9:43pm
    
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The flamewar comment was directed towards RedRaider who accused me of starting a flamewar on page #2 when I pointed out a mistake.
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