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I'm putting together another system and I'm looking for advice on which processor to get. The mobo I've picked out is the Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L. I'll be using Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit and 4GB of RAM, though I haven't decided exactly what yet, it won't be any less than PC-8000, and I'm leaning toward either G-Skill PC-8000 or 8500, Corsair Dominator PC-8500, or Mushkin.

Anyway, here's the deal regarding the processor: I game a lot, and I know that at this point, and probably for quite a while still, fast, C2Ds are better generally than quads. However, I also am involved in Folding@Home. And what I'm wondering is, is it truly realistic for me to get a quad, say a Q6600, give it a nice overclock, and let 2 cores fold constantly while allowing me to either surf the net or play games or do virtually whatever I want with the other 2 cores without a negative impact on either the folding or gaming? Specifically, I'm considering either the Q6600, the Q9450, or the E8500. Thanks for reading this, and any/all comments appreciated!
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post #2 of 14
Why 4gb's of RAM with Vista 32bit, you won't be able to use all of it. Switch to Vista 64bit.

Also get a Q6600.
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post #3 of 14
Can't comment on the folding stuff (maybe in the near future, though ) but I can tell you that that 4 gigs of ram won't be fully used with that 32 bit OS. Try Vista 64 and the 4 gigs. You won't be sorry.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marin View Post
Why 4gb's of RAM with Vista 32bit, you won't be able to use all of it. Switch to Vista 64bit.

Also get a Q6600.
Man, you're fast!!!!!!!!!!!! Beat me to it!
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Your still fine,yull have the ram if you decide to go 64 bit,you wont be disappointed i switched within 2 months,32 to 64 bit.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ceedub
And what I'm wondering is, is it truly realistic for me to get a quad, say a Q6600, give it a nice overclock, and let 2 cores fold constantly while allowing me to either surf the net or play games or do virtually whatever I want with the other 2 cores without a negative impact on either the folding or gaming?
I don't feel it is realistic.
Since gaming and overclocking are the priorities I'd go with an E8400/E3110.
You'll be very pleased with your new build running at 4.0 GHz and it'll very easy to get to.
Don't see you really gaining anything with an E8500.
And it will FOLD just fine when you are not gaming or surfing the web or sleeping.

If you are going with 4G of RAM I'd also recommend 2x 2GHz instead of 4x 1GHz sticks.
It's Just easier to make sure the rig OCs well.

I'll stay away from the 32bit/64bit OS controversy.
You're running Vista 32 bit now and seem happy with it so why change.

Obviously it's all about the GPU with modern games.
Your current card still has plenty of life in it.
I've got one of the ChiMei 22" monitors as well ($189 at MicroCenter), very pleased with it. Max res is 1680x1050.

Sounds like you are trying to do an upgrade without a lot of other hassles and processor and RAM are the places to start with current prices.
Not really a right or wrong answer to your question, the other guys have brought up the obvious RAM limitation on a 32 bit OS.
Edited by soundx98 - 5/27/08 at 5:09am
post #7 of 14
E8400/3110 are probably the best choice.
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post #8 of 14
Depends on what you plan on doing with it. If you are gaming predominantly go for the E8400, if you want to multitask, encode or sample go with a Q6600.
post #9 of 14
how come no ones suggesting a Q6700.....
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post #10 of 14
Go with a Q6600 if you are folding it will give you a lot more gains but try to gtet a Q6700 as i heard that the current batch of Q6600 barely overclock to 3.2Ghz. Also yea chnage to Vista x64
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