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Thanks. Such quick responses, heh.

Well I got my decision of XP from this resource http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=1332&page=5 , and http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=1390&page=2 . which pretty tells me Vista isn't what i want from his conclusions.

EDIT: Was aware i wasn't going to be able to use all 4g but the price of the ram was so cheap i figured why not
The first one pretty much shows off Vista's superior file handling capabilities and the second merely states that XP is about 5% faster in some games. So what? With an 8800GTS SLI set up there is no game that will stress it anyway so what's the problem with losing only 5% fps for the ability to use all your ram?

Might I also tell you that Vista is FAR FAR FAR more responsive that XP ever was because of the superfetch technology. Buying XP at this point in time is pure idiocy.
post #12 of 32
Go with Vista. It's BY FAR the superior OS. The thing is that you'll have to run Vista for a month or two before it shows it's full performance.

Also, I have NO idea on what kind of rig those tests have been performed. If it was a single core CPU with 1GB RAM, then of course XP would beat Vista. But, on a rig like yours, Vista will reign supreme.

I have Vista 64-bit, and it's MUCH more responsive than XP Pro 32-bit. Crisp, good looking, fast, future proof. What else do you need? (ok, you might drop a couple FPS in a few games.. who cares.)
    
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The first one pretty much shows off Vista's superior file handling capabilities and the second merely states that XP is about 5% faster in some games. So what? With an 8800GTS SLI set up there is no game that will stress it anyway so what's the problem with losing only 5% fps for the ability to use all your ram?

Might I also tell you that Vista is FAR FAR FAR more responsive that XP ever was because of the superfetch technology. Buying XP at this point in time is pure idiocy.
Yeah, i guess i just figured i was going to squeeze all the FPS i could get out of everything. But thinking over it again im sure I will not even notice first of all. would rather be futureproof and take advantage over all my hardware
post #14 of 32
Seriously, no joke and really VISTA 64 is the way to go now. I was douptfull about it for ages. I even got a copy of Ultimate 64 last year, installed it and a week later uninstalled it and put XP back on.

When SP1 came out i decided to give it another go and about 4 weeks ago i put Vista Ult64 back on my rig. I dont know why but since installing it i have not had a single problem, lockup or BSOD!!!! I think that it is down to a combination of SP1 fixes and better 64 bit driver support. I mean look at my sig rig and all the stuff i have installed and every single driver works perfectly. I also play alot of games (old and new) and again no problems.

The only thing with Vista is that it uses alot of RAM (1.2GB on my sys with virus protection on) BUT if you have 4GB WHO CARES????? that still leaves more than enough to play with.
XP is good, but remember it is now like 7 years old and starting to show its age. The 64bit version Sucks even worse than vista did the day it was released.
Seriously go for vista 64, you really wont regret it, i proimise.
Last thing - If you go down the XP 32 bit route you will loose so much RAM you wont believe. XP32 can only see about 3GB Total memory - that includes VRAM, Soundcard ram, motherboard resourse memory etc...
When i had 4GB running in xp32 with SLi'ed 8800's, XP would only see (and use) 1.5GB!!!!
It counts all your graphics card ram etc... as system mem.
If you go for that system with xp32 you will have almmost the same setup i did with xp and i would be willing to bet that xp will only use and see 1.5GB of that 4GB.
Buying XP now is nuts!!!!!! I even believe that Vista Home Prem 64 OEM is cheaper than buying a copy of 32bit XP. Dont even think about it GO VISTA!!!!
Edited by cptjharkness - 5/27/08 at 3:38am
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post #15 of 32
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Yeah going 64 bit now, Hah.

What about the monitors, think i'd be safe with either decision? only seen good things about the samsung2493. but people seem to complain about the backlight bleed on the gateway2400, though i was attracted to buy it cause of the inputs. anyone have either that can give good input?
post #16 of 32
Go for the Samsung, With that brand you cant go wrong. I dont like Any Gateway stuff.
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post #17 of 32
I'd say go for the Samsung monitor. I have two dells that use the Samsung panels and they are incredible. (One died recently, but that was the on/off switch broke. 4 years warranty though, so just my time wasted.)

Edit: Apparently the Xigmatek is the cooler to go for.
Edited by lattyware - 5/27/08 at 4:17am
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post #18 of 32
I would go for this cooler
OCZ Vendetta 2
Beats the TRUE in some reviews
Everything else looks nice. I also agree with lattyware, get the Samsung.

Is there any reason for having and IDE dvd drive? Sata is tidier/better for airflow.

Also - with 4gb of RAMyou will be best off getting vista home premium 64-bit.
post #19 of 32
Samsung and get the Zalman

My only other thing is the case, I would go for something cheaper, you don't need to spend that much on a case.
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post #20 of 32
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My only other thing is the case, I would go for something cheaper, you don't need to spend that much on a case.
Unless he wants to mod it, he doesn't need it, right.
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