Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD - General › Needs advice on my future rig.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Needs advice on my future rig. - Page 2

post #11 of 19
Q6700 for $240 @ tiger direct for today only it appears, my choice 4 cpu:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...MP=OTC-HARDOCP
post #12 of 19
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chozart View Post
My Intel/nVidia suggestions (just the core parts - all from Newegg):
  • XFX MB-N780-ISH9 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI Intel Motherboard $249.99
  • 2X XFX PVT88GYDF4 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card $479.98 (for the pair)
  • Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6700 $279.99
  • G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK $139.99
Total: $1,149.95
This will deal with any game you can throw at it.

Nay.. SLI / Crossfire won't become redundant. At this moment, current generation card cannot keep up with games. Thus, you'll need multiple cards to keep up. The next generation is not going to be *that* much faster than the current generation (I've heard about 50%, which is PATHETIC. usually, performance doubles from generation to generation.. roughly)
Couple questions on this setup, then:

1- Mobo: After some research, is it just me or this mobo doesn't support hardware RAID? At least the places I looked at didn't specify it. Would going for DDR3 advisable as of now? It looks mighty expensive, perhaps I could use a DDR3-compatible board, use DDR2 for now, and eventually make the move when prices drop?

2- Any specific reasons for the GSkill memory? I mean, that was the first time I read about that brand, seen it today in a couple reviews concerning the board you've recommended, I suppose the only real explanation is that they're simply very compatible and good at OCing?

3- What about the manufacturer of the GPU? Any reasons behind that choice?

Sorry for being so specific, I just like hearing how people got to their opinions, what motivated it, etc.

Thank you very much.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2600k@4.5ghzHTon 1.35v Asus P67 Deluxe EVGA GTX 670 4GB 8GB DDR3-1600 Ripjaws CL7-8-7-24 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X-25M 160GB G2 + 2x1TB Caviar Black Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Crossover 27Q + Dell S2309 23'' G19 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair HX1000W Thermaltake Armor+ G9 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2600k@4.5ghzHTon 1.35v Asus P67 Deluxe EVGA GTX 670 4GB 8GB DDR3-1600 Ripjaws CL7-8-7-24 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X-25M 160GB G2 + 2x1TB Caviar Black Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Crossover 27Q + Dell S2309 23'' G19 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair HX1000W Thermaltake Armor+ G9 
  hide details  
Reply
post #13 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pouleterie View Post
Couple questions on this setup, then:

1- Mobo: After some research, is it just me or this mobo doesn't support hardware RAID? At least the places I looked at didn't specify it. Would going for DDR3 advisable as of now? It looks mighty expensive, perhaps I could use a DDR3-compatible board, use DDR2 for now, and eventually make the move when prices drop?

2- Any specific reasons for the GSkill memory? I mean, that was the first time I read about that brand, seen it today in a couple reviews concerning the board you've recommended, I suppose the only real explanation is that they're simply very compatible and good at OCing?

3- What about the manufacturer of the GPU? Any reasons behind that choice?

Sorry for being so specific, I just like hearing how people got to their opinions, what motivated it, etc.

Thank you very much.
Well, I can try to answer on behalf of Chozart-

2 - G.Skill make very good quality memory, they have taken over as the overclockers favourite after Ballistix quality went downhill.

3- XFX is about second as far as customer service/warranty/build quality behind EVGA.
post #14 of 19
No mobo supports hardware raid. All onboard RAID controllers are software RAID (possibly some high-end exceptions). If you want true hardware RAID, you'll need a controller card that will cost you near $300.

Either go DDR2 (best price/peformance), or DDR3 all the way (not as expensive as it was anymore, but better performance.) NEITHER is futureproof, since nehalem will use a new socket... meaning that when DDR3 really becomes relevant, you'll need to replace the mobo anyways. I'd say: DDR2 for this budget.
DO NOT get a hybrid board...


Don't have reviews right away, but G.Skill is one of the best-known brands for overclocking RAM. Great stuff. Best review you can get is the user experience from members here.

XFX, together with eVGA, is one of the best manufacturers of nVidia based boards. eVGA has the advantage of their 90-day step-up program, while XFX is generally considered the top brand (by just about a hair).
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E8400 @ 3.8 GHz DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2R eVGA 8400GS 2GB Mushkin DDR2 800 (single stick) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250GB WD SATA None Windows XP Pro 32-bit HP Pavilion f1703 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
N/A Corsair HX520 Coolermaster Cavalier N/A 
Mouse Pad
N/A 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E8400 @ 3.8 GHz DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2R eVGA 8400GS 2GB Mushkin DDR2 800 (single stick) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250GB WD SATA None Windows XP Pro 32-bit HP Pavilion f1703 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
N/A Corsair HX520 Coolermaster Cavalier N/A 
Mouse Pad
N/A 
  hide details  
Reply
post #15 of 19
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chozart View Post
No mobo supports hardware raid. All onboard RAID controllers are software RAID (possibly some high-end exceptions). If you want true hardware RAID, you'll need a controller card that will cost you near $300.

Either go DDR2 (best price/peformance), or DDR3 all the way (not as expensive as it was anymore, but better performance.) NEITHER is futureproof, since nehalem will use a new socket... meaning that when DDR3 really becomes relevant, you'll need to replace the mobo anyways. I'd say: DDR2 for this budget.
DO NOT get a hybrid board...


Don't have reviews right away, but G.Skill is one of the best-known brands for overclocking RAM. Great stuff. Best review you can get is the user experience from members here.

XFX, together with eVGA, is one of the best manufacturers of nVidia based boards. eVGA has the advantage of their 90-day step-up program, while XFX is generally considered the top brand (by just about a hair).
My bad about the RAID part; I meant software, then. I kept thinking Software RAID was Windows-based, literally software. That's my bad. Well regardless, I'm looking for a RAID controller on the motherboard I'm getting as I'm planning to RAID 0. Did that motherboard support it?

And, for the memory, got it. It makes sense, I need to sharpen my swords for hardware, I feel so out of it. I used to follow it back then, but the burst of technologies is getting rather confusing if you don't keep track. (Which I intend to do here!)

Thanks for the answers everyone, really. You guys are great.

Nvm, got the RAID part alright if I look at this link.
http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product/...riesId=1743782

Sounds like a good bet, time to go look at the case forums and see what cooling solution to opt for, if I want to be doing as-high-as-possible overclocking.

I can't wait to start OCing and testing around, never done that before, even though I've had numerous computers in the past.

I have so many questions but I'd feel as if they,re unrelated to this topic, lol, so I'll hold them off for the proper section and not be a messy new member.

EDIT: System Memory:
Dual Channel DDR2 533/667/800 (On the board)

Does that mean I wouldn't get the full benefits of my 1066mhz memory? It'd only cap out at 800?

A SATA 3gb/s means SATA2 pretty much, right?
Edited by Pouleterie - 5/28/08 at 1:13pm
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2600k@4.5ghzHTon 1.35v Asus P67 Deluxe EVGA GTX 670 4GB 8GB DDR3-1600 Ripjaws CL7-8-7-24 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X-25M 160GB G2 + 2x1TB Caviar Black Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Crossover 27Q + Dell S2309 23'' G19 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair HX1000W Thermaltake Armor+ G9 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2600k@4.5ghzHTon 1.35v Asus P67 Deluxe EVGA GTX 670 4GB 8GB DDR3-1600 Ripjaws CL7-8-7-24 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X-25M 160GB G2 + 2x1TB Caviar Black Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Crossover 27Q + Dell S2309 23'' G19 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair HX1000W Thermaltake Armor+ G9 
  hide details  
Reply
post #16 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pouleterie View Post
EDIT: System Memory:
Dual Channel DDR2 533/667/800 (On the board)

Does that mean I wouldn't get the full benefits of my 1066mhz memory? It'd only cap out at 800?

A SATA 3gb/s means SATA2 pretty much, right?
1. You can always overclock your memory, so by overclocking it to 1066MHz, you'd actually have your memory at stock speed. Which means you can overclock even further.

2. Yes, basically.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD X2 3600+ 65nm @ 3.0GHz ASUS M2N32 SLI Deluxe MSI NX7600GT 2GB G.Skill HZ DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250GB WD SATA 3.0GB/s BenQ LightScribe DVD/RW Windows XP 20.1" Acer AL2017 
PowerCase
Corsair HX620W Thermaltake Soprano 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD X2 3600+ 65nm @ 3.0GHz ASUS M2N32 SLI Deluxe MSI NX7600GT 2GB G.Skill HZ DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
250GB WD SATA 3.0GB/s BenQ LightScribe DVD/RW Windows XP 20.1" Acer AL2017 
PowerCase
Corsair HX620W Thermaltake Soprano 
  hide details  
Reply
post #17 of 19
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeDrO305 View Post
1. You can always overclock your memory, so by overclocking it to 1066MHz, you'd actually have your memory at stock speed. Which means you can overclock even further.

2. Yes, basically.
Ah... I thought when you read the ram's speed specs on the board, it meant that it was the maximum speed the memory would go on the board no matter what you do... I guess I was wrong. That's useful info. Thanks.

So that would mean that the ram would be running at stock speed, not overclocked from it's point of view, but the bus speed for the ram would be overclocked, correct? I'm not too sure how that works, sorry if it seems so simple for you guys, as I said, I'm brand new to overclocking.
Edited by Pouleterie - 5/28/08 at 3:03pm
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2600k@4.5ghzHTon 1.35v Asus P67 Deluxe EVGA GTX 670 4GB 8GB DDR3-1600 Ripjaws CL7-8-7-24 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X-25M 160GB G2 + 2x1TB Caviar Black Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Crossover 27Q + Dell S2309 23'' G19 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair HX1000W Thermaltake Armor+ G9 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2600k@4.5ghzHTon 1.35v Asus P67 Deluxe EVGA GTX 670 4GB 8GB DDR3-1600 Ripjaws CL7-8-7-24 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X-25M 160GB G2 + 2x1TB Caviar Black Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Crossover 27Q + Dell S2309 23'' G19 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair HX1000W Thermaltake Armor+ G9 
  hide details  
Reply
post #18 of 19
Thread Starter 
Bump. Just needing that info to move on to greater things. Thanks again. :3
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2600k@4.5ghzHTon 1.35v Asus P67 Deluxe EVGA GTX 670 4GB 8GB DDR3-1600 Ripjaws CL7-8-7-24 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X-25M 160GB G2 + 2x1TB Caviar Black Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Crossover 27Q + Dell S2309 23'' G19 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair HX1000W Thermaltake Armor+ G9 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2600k@4.5ghzHTon 1.35v Asus P67 Deluxe EVGA GTX 670 4GB 8GB DDR3-1600 Ripjaws CL7-8-7-24 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X-25M 160GB G2 + 2x1TB Caviar Black Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Crossover 27Q + Dell S2309 23'' G19 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair HX1000W Thermaltake Armor+ G9 
  hide details  
Reply
post #19 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pouleterie View Post
Bump. Just needing that info to move on to greater things. Thanks again. :3
Yup you guessed right. The RAM would not be overclocked from its point of view, but it would be on a divider with the Bus speed. So the bus need not necessarily be overclocked if the right divider is chosen.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD - General
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD - General › Needs advice on my future rig.