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Hey guys. I am an OC newb and need a lot of advice from professionals
I kinda researched that OC in OEM comps are virtually impossible because the adminstrator can't access to the settings or something.

First Question is : Are all OEM(DELL) comps really impossible to OC like user-build system? If the answer is yes(not possible), you can ignore the rest of my posts.

Here is my specs.

Intel Core2 processor Q6600 (2.40Ghz, 1066FSB) 8MB Cache
4GB DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz
512MB NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
500GB NCQ Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM) w/ 16MB databursh cache
Windows Vista Home Premium 32 Bit
Power- Probably 240 Voltage because it's OEM comp
Cooling - Don't know, probably standard one, but you can guestimate because its profile because my comp is OEM(DELL).


I know my power and cooler equipments are too weak. All i want is not extreme OC, but wanna take baby steps. From reading the forums, I think OCing to 3.2 Ghz comfortable spot for now.
Here are more questions.

1. Can I OC to 3.2 GHz comfortably without upgrading anything? If yes, skip to #2.
a) What is the range of voltage required to OC to 3.2 GHz?
b) What is the estimated temperature if I OC to 3.2 Ghz?
c) Can you suggest me the best fit temp cooler? I think some air cooler would be fine.

2. Is OCing to 3.2 MUCH more damage than 3.4? In another words, Is the dmg from 3.4 oc noticible than oc in 3.2?
    
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Well, I got to say a few things:

1.) I'm surprised your comp can run at all if that's how much power you have in that PSU!

2.) Yes, it is impossible to overclock a CPU via a pre-built machine. You should have built your own computer to have "access" to overclocking, as well as save money.

So yeah, since you cannot overclock in the first place...
    
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First off, welcome to the forums.
Second off, 3.2ghz is pretty much the most a Q6600 can go while still being stable. I've seen 3.4ghz and a little higher, but those people were on water cooling.

A good temp monitoring program would be CoreTemp, Speedfan, or HWMonitor.
post #4 of 102
Yes, it is impossible.
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Originally Posted by hiiyah777 View Post
Yes
Huh?

EDIT: Nvm
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Originally Posted by The Mad Mule View Post
Well, I got to say a few things:

1.) I'm surprised your comp can run at all if that's how much power you have in that PSU!

2.) Yes, it is impossible to overclock a CPU via a pre-built machine. You should have built your own computer to have "access" to overclocking, as well as save money.

So yeah, since you cannot overclock in the first place...
Thank you for your warm welcome. Yes, I really don't know what power supply it runs in. I don't wanna open my comp to just check for that. About how much would it be if I had built it? I bought this comp $1100(w/ tax) with 22in monitor(pretty sharp one).

I probably just buy new comp again within two to three of months, but will build it this time. I will probably go with similar spec with Q6600 unless someone thinks ocing dual core will be better. Q6600 because from reading the forums, this processor gives the best net outcome from ocing.

What I need is your recommendations on cooling system and power supply. Any other recommendations like memory and its proportion most efficient processing power also can be useful. Lastly, please give me a estimate price of the new system with a decent 18-22 inch monitor. Thanks
    
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post the model # of your Dell
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post the model # of your Dell
Dell 420

I downloaded nTune to overclock my current OEM system.
About how much processing power would I get from this software OC?
    
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You really should never overclock via software. It will not usually work, and will cause more problems than it's worth. The only safe way to overclock is through the BIOS, and you don't have that option, sorry :/
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I have overclocked quite a few Dell PCs in the past few months, so it is possible. The limiting factor is if your CPU can run at 333 FSB with default voltage. This is important to overclocking OEM PCs because the only way to really do it is with a BSEL mod. Here is the 266 conversion to 333 FSB mod I performed on my E6600 to test out the mod:

This mod will allow your CPU to run at 3.0GHz. I used copper tape used to repair circuit board traces.


By connecting those pins on the CPU, you can have it run at a 333 FSB. There is also a 200 to 266 FSB BSEL mod, which I have done on many E4X00 and E21X0 CPUs.
Edited by ericeod - 5/28/08 at 1:46pm
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