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Can you compare these two motherboards and tell me if there is performance difference?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136043
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136038
Those 2 boards are both excellent. But the Blood Iron is the older of the two. It was improved upon with the release of the DK. They both have similar components, but the DK has updated capacitors and a slightly differnt circuit layout. I would definitely recommend the DK over the blood iron. Just keep in minD that these boards have advanced bios settings and are not for the feint of heart.
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Vista uses memory differently than XP. People complain that Vista is using too much memory, but it "pre-loads" common programs into RAM with Superfetch. Basically, the more memory you have, the more Vista will use.
I dual boot XP32 bit and Vista 64 bit. SAme amount of programs open, XP is @ about 400mb of 3 GB used, Vista is 1.3 GB of 4 gigs used.
When I had 2 gigs, XP was the same, but Vista was only @ ~750mb-1gb.

The way I look at it, the memory is not being used, so why not let Vista use more of it. It instantly dumps whatever is not needed when memory useage goes up, so no slowdown with it.

4 gigs is overkill for most, but with the price of memory so cheap now (I got my 2x2 gigs 2 months ago for 1/2 the price of my 2x1 gigs about a year ago) I figured why not.
64 bit OS is the future, so I may as well make use of it.
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Vista uses memory differently than XP. People complain that Vista is using too much memory, but it "pre-loads" common programs into RAM with Superfetch. Basically, the more memory you have, the more Vista will use.
I dual boot XP32 bit and Vista 64 bit. SAme amount of programs open, XP is @ about 400mb of 3 GB used, Vista is 1.3 GB of 4 gigs used.
When I had 2 gigs, XP was the same, but Vista was only @ ~750mb-1gb.

The way I look at it, the memory is not being used, so why not let Vista use more of it. It instantly dumps whatever is not needed when memory useage goes up, so no slowdown with it.

4 gigs is overkill for most, but with the price of memory so cheap now (I got my 2x2 gigs 2 months ago for 1/2 the price of my 2x1 gigs about a year ago) I figured why not.
64 bit OS is the future, so I may as well make use of it.
Thanks. Can you answer my previous question? I'm planning to build Vista 64-bit system. Does G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel perform much better than 4GB DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz? Or do I need to purchase G.SKILL (2 x 2GB) memory?
    
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Thanks. Can you answer my previous question? I'm planning to build Vista 64-bit system. Does G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel perform much better than 4GB DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz? Or do I need to purchase G.SKILL (2 x 2GB) memory?
the G skill will perform better, 667 mhz is a bottleneck, and the memory that comes with Dell is either those cheap ones that cost 10 dollar a stick or maybe 20$..

the Gskill one is a great overclocker, when you overclock your processor, your rams overclocks too, but you can "UNLINK" it, but it's not a great idea to unlink, i read a thread here.. somewhere.. that if you unlink the memory, you'll perform slower than having it linked and synced.

anyway, 667 mhz is a lot worst than 800 mhz or 1000 mhz (assuming the gskill memory are 1000 mhz)

I remember my gaming memory, at 675 mhz, overclocked to 700 mhz, was not better than my brother's crucial memory at 800 mhz,, and his was way cheaper than mine.. we bought it at the same time too.
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Hmm, do you recommend me to buy G.SKILL (2 x 2GB)? I am planning to run high-end games.
    
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Hmm, do you recommend me to buy G.SKILL (2 x 2GB)? I am planning to run high-end games.
rather highend games or not, the gskill are great memorys
you wont regret buying the gskill memory, remember to get 64 bit operating system
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rather highend games or not, the gskill are great memorys
you wont regret buying the gskill memory, remember to get 64 bit operating system
Sorry for the confusion with the meaning of my question. I will reword it.
Is it really worth it to spend more money to buy G.SKILL (2 x 2GB) rather than saving money by just buying G.SKILL (2. x 1GB).
in other words,
Is there a noticible difference on high-end game performance if I purchase G.SKILL (2 x 2GB) vs G.SKILL (2 x 1GB)?
    
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The G.Skill 2x2 PC2-8000 1,000MHz kit I included in my build is a great set for a really good price. That is why I recommended it. I also have them myself.

Any decent kit ~800MHz or so should be fine. I've never seen any proof of 'bottlenecking' with 667MHz RAM opposed to 800MHz. A mere 133MHz increase won't generally lead to much of a real-world performance benefit, from what I've experienced. A 333MHz increase can be noticeable in some games, but it's not usually enormous by any means. The only major differences you'll see are likely to be in memory specific benchmarks.

I can tell you from experience, having enough RAM (capacity) is generally much more important than frequency. 2GB can be enough with Vista, but I'd recommend 4GB if you're going to be playing newer, demanding games. DDR2 is relatively cheap these days, anyway. I'd stick with a 2 x 2GB kit. I also listed Vista 64-bit in the build to fully utilize the capacity.

Also, with most modern "enthusiast" motherboards, the memory and front side bus can be changed to their own respective frequencies, independent of each other. The divider is then dynamically set by the motherboard in accordance with the closest possible FSB:RAM ratio. In layman's terms: you don't have to make sure the RAM and FSB are capable or set at the same speeds, and you don't have to figure out the divider (ratio) yourself. FYI: With the G.Skill 1,000MHz RAM I recommended, keeping a 1:1 FSB:RAM ratio (if you desire) will be possible to at least 500MHz FSB.
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yeap, whatever chogg says
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First off, welcome to the forums.
Second off, 3.2ghz is pretty much the most a Q6600 can go while still being stable. I've seen 3.4ghz and a little higher, but those people were on water cooling.

A good temp monitoring program would be CoreTemp, Speedfan, or HWMonitor.
What are you on?

3.2 is pretty much the most a Q6600 can go whilst still being stable...


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