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Where is your logic?

How does a ruling against a massive corporation equate to a weak court system?

In fact, Europeans have been the only ones to slap a multitude of American corporations around a bit. Better than letting them run rampant like they do in North America lobbying any way they want and posting peons into political offices to direct the market and politics.

Whether they are doing it to fill their own coffers or not, I do not care. The point is they are putting them in their place as they should and not letting them be the supreme overseer of everything.
The EU has recently been lobbying and attempting to weaken large corporations for no real reason other than to attempt to give the little guys more market share, unfortunately they fail to realize that the little guys are little guys for a reason. AMD saw that the EU has been doing this, and out of desperation launched the case.

As for the political and lobbying, that is pure speculation, evidence please?
    
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Sirs, we must sanction Intel instead of Petrolium companies.
That is the only logical thing to do in a time of crisis.
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Im just going to say this, HALF of you, in this thread, are morons... I wont name names, but it should be obvious with this...

This is all part of a series of court cases back from the beginning of the Athlon64 vs P4 era. Just now has it dragged onto this. Saying things like Intel delivering a better product, or delivering it on time is truely irrelevent, considering most of this is from before the Core 2 was even thought about.

Now, see.. THIS is what happens when you pay OEM's to buy your processors, or pay OEM's to not buy your competitors products (Intel was found guilty of this in Japan). This is simply attempting to make things a fair business for everyone, especially the consumer.
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Sirs, we must sanction Intel instead of Petrolium companies.
That is the only logical thing to do in a time of crisis.
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The EU forgets that the purpose of anti-monopoly laws is to protect the comsumer, not the competitor. I don't think the consumers are being hurt by Intel right now. This is why you do see legal action in the US.
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Haha, Intel. Cheating? Is it their fault they actually DELIVERED their products on time, and they were far superior to the current AMD offerings? ITS CALLED COMPETITION and without it the prices for intel cpu's in the EU are just going to go up and up and up and up and up. I pity the fool who takes the side of the EU court in this matter, Its outright communism plain and simple.

ITS CALLED COMPETITION?????? How on earth do you call in competition? Do you think that paying poeple and selling a cpu's below productions cost is fair? If you do sorry for you, you've never had a fair fight before, screw level playing grounds, lets have the company with more money win.
"I pity the fool who takes the side of the EU court in this matter, Its outright communism plain and simple" DO you know anything about communism, actully you dont, cause in communism the rich get richer and the people get screw'd, look it up, there is a reason why communism has never worked and always fails. So Intel is actually the communest here, they get richer and the poeple stay the same, but will most likely end up paying more if AMD is gone. But sure pity US very clever indeed.
Edited by foX2delta777 - 5/28/08 at 9:36am
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The EU forgets that the purpose of anti-monopoly laws is to protect the comsumer, not the competitor. I don't think the consumers are being hurt by Intel right now. This is why you do see legal action in the US.
There are plenty of court cases about this in the US about this. Intel has for the most part changed, however AMD is still going through with the case.
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This is all part of a series of court cases back from the beginning of the Athlon64 vs P4 era. Just now has it dragged onto this. Saying things like Intel delivering a better product, or delivering it on time is truely irrelevent, considering most of this is from before the Core 2 was even thought about.
Exactly! C2D has no bearing on the prior accusations. The fact that in the A64 vs P4 era AMD was steadily gaining market share kind of debunks their claim that Intel's actions were anticompetitive... If anything their actions could be characterized as an attempt at making themselves competitive in the face of a superior product. What hindered AMD's growth during that era was their lack fab capacity and consequently the inability to provide the necessary volume of CPUs to large OEMs like DELL, HP, Lenovo ect. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the aforementioned companies used the threat of "going AMD" as a bargaining chip with Intel.

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ITS CALLED COMPETITION?????? How on earth do you call in competition? Do you think that paying poeple and selling a cpu's below productions cost is fair? If you do sorry for you, you've never had a fair fight before, screw level playing grounds, lets have the company with more money win.
Ah yes, and what is AMD doing right now with their CPU lineup? They might not be selling them below cost, but they aren't making much money either...

-EDIT-

I hear "what they did was illegal" quite a lot, could someone please clarify?

-EDIT #2-

EU -> Airbus; Do some reading and then tell me the EU is about fair competition.
Edited by MasterKromm - 5/28/08 at 10:16am
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Im just going to say this, HALF of you, in this thread, are morons... I wont name names, but it should be obvious with this...

This is all part of a series of court cases back from the beginning of the Athlon64 vs P4 era. Just now has it dragged onto this. Saying things like Intel delivering a better product, or delivering it on time is truely irrelevent, considering most of this is from before the Core 2 was even thought about.

Now, see.. THIS is what happens when you pay OEM's to buy your processors, or pay OEM's to not buy your competitors products (Intel was found guilty of this in Japan). This is simply attempting to make things a fair business for everyone, especially the consumer.
Actually it was a misunderstanding.

Back then AMD could not deliver chips in sufficient quantities to folks like Dell and HP.

I agree whole heartedly with you Paul, there really is no point, and no benefit to any one in this "trial".
    
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Im just going to say this, HALF of you, in this thread, are morons... I wont name names, but it should be obvious with this...

This is all part of a series of court cases back from the beginning of the Athlon64 vs P4 era. Just now has it dragged onto this. Saying things like Intel delivering a better product, or delivering it on time is truely irrelevent, considering most of this is from before the Core 2 was even thought about.

Now, see.. THIS is what happens when you pay OEM's to buy your processors, or pay OEM's to not buy your competitors products (Intel was found guilty of this in Japan). This is simply attempting to make things a fair business for everyone, especially the consumer.
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