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Just like health care and oil. Great job with those in regards to the consumer.
We are going off topic with this, but health care is very expensive for companies, and many can't do it, not much to do about it. We could give it for free to everyone like canada, however taxes would have to be raised, and from what I have heard the system tends to be a complete nightmare for the doctors.

Oil is our blood, it keeps everything running, and as such is a matter of national security and national interest. Is their price gouging on US oil companies part? I don't know, and no opinion should be made until we see exactly what they are doing (I believe they are potentially being investigated a bit for this).
    
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post #32 of 97
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Thought so.

It is always so funny when folks from other countries comment on places they have never lived in.

Do you have any idea how our system even runs over here? Corporations don't post people to positions, people are elected big difference.
Dude, our politicians aren't elected, they are selected. The corporate powers that share decision making with the financial power brokers hold court every year at a few meetings including Bilderburg and various functions put on by the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations. They hand pick the field of candidates that the mases get to vote on in any major election(presidental, Senate seats, governorships of the richer states).

Here's a BBC article on them that really is a bit of a whitewash, but still pretty scary when you consider the implications.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4290944.stm

My favorite quote from the article:
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Bilderberg meetings often feature future political leaders shortly before they become household names. Bill Clinton went in 1991 while still governor of Arkansas, Tony Blair was there two years later while still an opposition MP. All the recent presidents of the European Commission attended Bilderberg meetings before they were appointed.

In 2006 it was resolved at the Bilderburg conference that crude oil prices would be driven up to a minimum of $105 a barrel by the end of 2008. Since it's been hovering around $130 last I heard they are well along on that project. At least that's what Jim Tucker said. He may be a wacko, but then again he was covering the group back when it's very existence was called a conspiracy theory.
Edited by Jarhead - 5/28/08 at 10:42am
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Tell me the last time when you have had more than two parties viable for election? I bet you will say that you have never seen this.
Tell me the clear difference between the democratic and the republican party in terms of what they actually do for the general population? I'll bet you will not know.
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Tell me when the United States has last had an independent candidate rise to a significant political position, stay there, and actually make a difference? I bet you cannot think of such a situation.

Again, I could go on, but I will leave you with this for now.
Two parties? Every single election, the difference? Which one is the better liar.

This is going way the heck out in OT zone, but generally I vote by which ever candidate has a history and current view that aligns with what I believe is right, and what I believe needs to be done. (scary though huh?)

Independent candidate's tend not to rise as highly due to their unpopular views. Right now we could have one, Hillary or Obama could go independent if the other one wins the nomination.

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Dude, our politicians aren't elected, they are selected. The corporate powers that share decision making with the financial power brokers hold court every year at a few meetings including Bilderburg and various functions put on by the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations. They hand pick the field of candidates that the mases get to vote on in any major election(presidental, Senate seats, governorships of the richer states).

Here's a BBC article on them that really is a bit of a whitewash, but still pretty scary when you consider the implications.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4290944.stm

My favorite quote from the article:
In 2006 it was resolved at the Bilderburg conference that crude oil prices would be driven up to a minimum of $105 a barrel by the end of 2008. Since it's been hovering around $130 last I heard they are well along on that project
Ohh my!!

High ranking officials getting togather? It has got to be that they rule the world!

In difficult times we frequently accept simple answers for highly complex problems.
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Go EU!
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post #35 of 97
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We are going off topic with this, but health care is very expensive for companies, and many can't do it, not much to do about it. We could give it for free to everyone like canada, however taxes would have to be raised, and from what I have heard the system tends to be a complete nightmare for the doctors.

Oil is our blood, it keeps everything running, and as such is a matter of national security and national interest. Is their price gouging on US oil companies part? I don't know, and no opinion should be made until we see exactly what they are doing (I believe they are potentially being investigated a bit for this).
Exxon-Mobil posts a $40 billion profit and this is the best you can come up with (linky: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22949325/)? Dude, you are arguing way out of your league.

Oh and they are not being investigated any more. They have been cleared of any connection to price fixing, that is until some independent body decides to cause some stir again and before they get squashed.

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This is going way the heck out in OT zone, but generally I vote by which ever candidate has a history and current view that aligns with what I believe is right, and what I believe needs to be done. (scary though huh?)
Did you ever see that episode of Simpsons when you have the two aliens posing as two candidates representing different interests, where if you indeed listen to what they say you can actually notice they are saying the same thing, but arguing it from a different perspective? That's what you are voting for to the dot. There is no candidate that connects closely to your interests. There is only the perception of that.

Just to illustrate, let me refer to the current election race. I can identify with Obama as he comes off really genuine, he comes from the so-called regular classes, and he really seems to care about raising America's standing in the world. To put it simply, he advocates going back to traditional American values, and equal system, equal market, but he has no experience. On the other hand, I can also identify with McCain because he wants to do one thing that is extremely important in the world, and that is fairness in war, respect for international laws of conduct in conflicts, reduction of nuclear arsenal, etc. On top of that, he is as experienced as you can get. So I am left to pick. Less damaging wars and less weapons or going back to traditional values. I have an idea, how about both?

Every problem has multiple facets. Addressing one of those facets only allows each side the take effectively the same position on the problem as a whole but make it seem as though they are taking very different stances.

Finally, I have asked you tell me "when you have had more than two parties viable for election". Not when you had two parties for election. Every election you have ONLY had two parties.
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Woot go EU, you show them what happens when the deliver superior products.
You're such a fanboy it makes me sad. Every single thread about the lawsuit, you're in here talking the same gibberish. Just you saying 'superior' means you not only still know nothing about this, but you PURPOSELY keep yourself ignorant, as you have been told what this lawsuit is about MULTIPLE TIMES.

This is not the ESPN.com forums, quit being a troll
    
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Looks like Intel just hit the FSB wall and it's called the EU.
LoL, you're my hero.
    
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Whether Intel deliver superior products is irrelevant.

What the problem is, is that Intel pay people to buy there products and the retailers advertising.
Why didn't they pay me?
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Why didn't they pay me?
Because you're not Dell, HP, Compaq, E-Machines...get the point?
    
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Why didn't they pay me?
I'm afraid to say............they don't love you anymore
    
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