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Ohh my!!

High ranking officials getting togather? It has got to be that they rule the world!

In difficult times we frequently accept simple answers for highly complex problems.
They aren't "official" in any capacity. We are talking about the class of super-rich that would be giving up power to become a "world leader." The whole bloody world is being set up as multi-level bureaucracy with decisions made at the top by those with control over the most industries and governments and mentally unhinged enough to use it. A general plan that has taken centuries to bear fruit on this level, and this is supposed to be the simple answer? How?
post #42 of 97
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Why didn't they pay me?
Because you haven't been enough of a fanboy like me!

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You're such a fanboy it makes me sad. Every single thread about the lawsuit, you're in here talking the same gibberish. Just you saying 'superior' means you not only still know nothing about this, but you PURPOSELY keep yourself ignorant, as you have been told what this lawsuit is about MULTIPLE TIMES.

This is not the ESPN.com forums, quit being a troll
The EU has had a very bad habit lately of trying to "shake things up" by damaging the market leaders, mostly Intel and Microsoft.

I am not so much mad at them for the verdict against Intel, I am more against their idea that if a company is doing great it has to be because they are doing something bad.

I never said Intel was a golden child, or that I approve of their practices; I most certainly don't. Sorry if I made it appear so; as it goes against what I believe in, that being said some companies do unacceptable things that if I were in their shoes, I wouldn't be doing.

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Did you ever see that episode of Simpsons when you have the two aliens posing as two candidates representing different interests, where if you indeed listen to what they say you can actually notice they are saying the same thing, but arguing it from a different perspective? That's what you are voting for to the dot. There is no candidate that connects closely to your interests. There is only the perception of that.
Very true.

I do dislike though that it has become a beauty pageant, where it is only the good speakers that win, or the ones who look the best. Sadly their beliefs and morals are starting to take a seat to looking good.

Recently in a local election I was going to vote for one guy, however I actually met one of the other candidates at a local gas station, and he looked pretty ragged; it turns out he was helping out on his parents farm because they were too old to do certain things; all that instead of campaigning like his opponant. That sort of attitude won my vote.
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Looks like Intel just hit the FSB wall and it's called the EU.
I just rofled!
    
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The EU has had a very bad habit lately of trying to "shake things up" by damaging the market leaders, mostly Intel and Microsoft.

I am not so much mad at them for the verdict against Intel, I am more against their idea that if a company is doing great it has to be because they are doing something bad.

I never said Intel was a golden child, or that I approve of their practices; I most certainly don't. Sorry if I made it appear so; as it goes against what I believe in, that being said some companies do unacceptable things that if I were in their shoes, I wouldn't be doing.
First off, you know it's not a simple issue of these companies being 'great'. It's an issue of these companies using their power, not their products or their quality, to kill of competitors. It's been proven with both companies now, what else do you need? I can't help but wonder why so many individuals are defending companies that try to get around anti-trust laws.....It's like you're rooting for a f***ing in the a**.

2nd, if you're not defending Intel, why are you ALWAYS in these threads saying the exact same things, only to have people inform you, every single time, that this lawsuit is about what Intel was doing way back when AMD was faster, better and cheaper?
    
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The funniest part of this thread is that you guys are arguing over a tabloid.
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First off, you know it's not a simple issue of these companies being 'great'. It's an issue of these companies using their power, not their products or their quality, to kill of competitors. It's been proven with both companies now, what else do you need? I can't help but wonder why so many individuals are defending companies that try to get around anti-trust laws.....It's like you're rooting for a f***ing in the a**.

2nd, if you're not defending Intel, why are you ALWAYS in these threads saying the exact same things, only to have people inform you, every single time, that this lawsuit is about what Intel was doing way back when AMD was faster, better and cheaper?
Like I stated earlier, it was a misunderstanding by me using the word "superior" in this case I should have been more specific. I sure as heck know my history, it wasn't until last year that I moved from my XP 2000+ (bought because it was better than any Intel offering in my price range).

Most of the reason is that AMD is being a little baby, just look at when they finally did get deals with Dell, it became much tougher to get chips for enthusiasts. How would it have been before when they had even less resources?

Did Intel (or much evidence) ever come up on their "cheating"? I never really heard much on that, just that AMD accused them of it, and some random exec claimed that Intel made an offering.
    
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Big companies may be free to **** around in USA, but not here!
Go EU, punish them for being bad!!
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Like I stated earlier, it was a misunderstanding by me using the word "superior" in this case I should have been more specific. I sure as heck know my history, it wasn't until last year that I moved from my XP 2000+ (bought because it was better than any Intel offering in my price range).

Most of the reason is that AMD is being a little baby, just look at when they finally did get deals with Dell, it became much tougher to get chips for enthusiasts. How would it have been before when they had even less resources?

Did Intel (or much evidence) ever come up on their "cheating"? I never really heard much on that, just that AMD accused them of it, and some random exec claimed that Intel made an offering.
You've been in like 4 of these threads. I and other have gone over this case with you multiple times. I personally have broken this entire case down to you twice. You proposely ignore facts, then come back on and post the same ignorant gibberish later. If that isn't being a fanboy i don't know what is.

If you want the facts then go search for them this time, I'm not wasting my time explaining it, but next time you should be more objective about what you read.
    
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You've been in like 4 of these threads. I and other have gone over this case with you multiple times. I personally have broken this entire case down to you twice. You proposely ignore facts, then come back on and post the same ignorant gibberish later. If that isn't being a fanboy i don't know what is.

If you want the facts then go search for them this time, I'm not wasting my time explaining it, but next time you should be more objective about what you read.
I am sorry that I don't understand things, so quite calling me a fanboy and tell me what this is about.

What I thought it was about: "Intel supposedly paying companies to go with them over AMD."

What is this about then? Also, what "facts" have I been ignoring?

EDIT: ok, so yea the way you are explaining it I do understand it. And yea this is the first time you did break it down. As for why I post, thats easy, Cuz Intel pays me to.. please don't take me to the EU...
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The discounts is extremely common, IBM, Dell, they all do it, that is why if you ask a college how many computers and of what type, they won't tell you.

The issue was mostly that AMD had no ability to deliver what the OEM's needed, and a few other issues related to AMD's size. Everyone knew that, AMD just saw an opportunity, and a weak court system.
Discounts are one thing, threats of black balling builders like Dell, Sony, etc... if they bought AMD products is a whole different thing!

Do you think AMD would of been able to afford to build more fabs if Intel hadn't squeezed AMD out of the sales unlawfully?

All that has been proven in several countrys so its not a matter of IMHO or anyones for that matter!

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Big companies may be free to **** around in USA, but not here!
Go EU, punish them for being bad!!
Well said, the US is way to lame to attack the likes of Intel or MS even though both deserve it well and justly!
Its just more proof of massive coprorate greed and power here
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