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Hello OCN. In the next 6 months or so I'm hoping to transfer my current build into an Antec 1200. However, I'd also like to make the switch to water cooling. However, I'm fairly lost on the whole procedure. I've been reading threads and articles and have grasped a little bit on how it all works and the parts I'd need. However, I was wondering if some experts here could give me advice on which parts to choose. I don't want a low end system as that's just not me. I'm a high end guy, however I know water cooling is quite expensive. So, middle to middle-high would is what I have in mind.

So, if anyone could recommend me parts to get the ball rolling, that'd be great. Thanks in advance!
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Something like this would make a decent rig;

For all metal custom, Stinger all the way...Stinger WB

Commercial..D-tek Fuzion V2..W/insert...D-tek Fuzion V2 Quad Core Insert

Pump...D-5

Rad.. GTX360..Or go with the big dog.. GTX480..Fans I like these.115 Pana-S/W...These aren't bad..86cfm Pana..I'd stick with 120x38mm fans for the added pressure...The GTX will perform well with 47+cfm fans though if thats what you prefer..360 GTX Beats PA.3 Using 47cfm YL Fans.Shrouds will help to...Part 1- Temp's with and with-out shrouds

Res...DD 5 1/4" Bay Reservoir.Or just use a t-line....

Tubing..7/16x5/8".Its cheap and good, its more compact then the full size and will flow about as well...I just replace it everytime I tear my loop down fro cleaning...

Or full size if you prefer it...1/2x3/4"

GPU...Swifty 60.If it fits your card...You'll need ram sinks with it...Swifty 60 Ram Sinks

Coolant.Pentosin..Mixed at 10 or 11-1 with distilled and a couple of drops of this for a biocide...PT Nuke

Clamps...I like automotive worm drive, zip-ties will work just as well if you prefer them...

I'll leave you my cleaning and set up PDF also....
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So, the rear case fans are not enough to push air through the rad? I'd have to buy 6 of those Panaflo's to keep 'er cool?
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You don't want to run your hotter case air through your rad anyway, it can be several C hotter then the room ambient air...You could, but I wouldn't..

You would only need 6 fans if you were doing a push-pull on the 360 or you would need 4 for just a pull on the 480...
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You don't want to run your hotter case air through your rad anyway, it can be several C hotter then the room ambient air...You could, but I wouldn't..

You would only need 6 fans if you were doing a push-pull on the 360 or you would need 4 for just a pull on the 480...
What would you recommend? Just 4? Wouldn't it be 3 on front pull, 3 on rear push? That's how I saw it. Secondly, I was looking at that MCW60-R. I'm not sure if it would fit on my 3870 but if it would, I wouldn't need RAM sinks. The RAM sinks on a 3870 are seperate from the GPU. Which is good. Those RAM sinks are expensive!
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What would you recommend? Just 4? Wouldn't it be 3 on front pull, 3 on rear push? That's how I saw it. Secondly, I was looking at that MCW60-R. I'm not sure if it would fit on my 3870 but if it would, I wouldn't need RAM sinks. The RAM sinks on a 3870 are seperate from the GPU. Which is good. Those RAM sinks are expensive!
Yes on a 360 rad you would need 6 to do a push-pull...I always have the front pushing and the rear pulling....A push-pull would be great if you have the room to do it...I made my 480 as a free standing rad and just set it behind my rig...

On the 480 GTX you would need 8 fans to do a push-pull....

Yeah their proud of those little pieces of copper aren't they......Its ridiculous, just like the rest of this gear, I guess it fits into the "Luxury" class, they know well buy the over-priced junk...

Heres how I did my 480 at one time...I have it stuck on the second shelf of my bench now....

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On the Antec 1200 a builder (from OCN, I think) stated the was space on the back to mount a rad, so that was my original intentions.
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Oh yeah, you can hang a 360 on the back easily with a rad-box.Radbox .As long as the case is tall enough for it...Or just make your own out of something...The rad box is a box in a box, it just slides into each other, it has a baffle in it so you want get as much case air through your rad for your rear case fan...

I always cut a little piece of plastic from a bleach jug and use it like a little air diverter for the PSU and GPU...Just stick it in so the air is blown up or to the side instead of through your rad, it helps a little...

Heres a pic of a 240 BIX I had on the back of a box...I made some quick dis-connects out of aluminum channel to go between the rad-box and rad...I just drilled 4 holes in the rad side, then screwed a couple of round head sheet metal screws in the other side...That way I could raise the rad up or down 4 positions, or take it off and shake it while I was bleeding to get the air out faster...Simple to make and its really pretty handy...

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Alright, so... let's say that I'm somewhat technically challenged in that department? Having to construct things out of steel. Would the be a more noob-friendly option?
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Alright, so... let's say that I'm somewhat technically challenged in that department? Having to construct things out of steel. Would the be a more noob-friendly option?
Just use a rad-box...You can make shrouds out of gutted 120x38mm fans, thats what I use anymore to...They work as well as the ones i used to make out of aluminum channel anyway...Look around surplus sales sites to find cheap ones...They are heavy, so the shp is high on them, I never pay over 2 or 3 bux for one because of that...

120x25mm fan will give you a .98" deep shroud...I've seen a few guys just use 2 of those stacked as a shroud, you can find 120x25mm fans really cheap sometimes..I've always hear that 1.5" is the optimum depth for a shroud, but I've never seen any real testing showing that it is....
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