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That thing (I'm hesitant to call it a psu) can't produce anywhere near 500W. If you bought it from Newegg I would really consider sending it back and eating the restocking and shipping fees.
Seconded.

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Seconded.

Your Power Supply is THE most important piece of hardware you have in your computer. There's basically $1000+ sitting on the $59.99 PSU.
There is nothing wrong with a $60, although that one isn't what I would use. So instead of saying $1000 sitting on a $60 PSU (althought its true) a little more can get you more bang for buck
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There is nothing wrong with a $60, although that one isn't what I would use. So instead of saying $1000 sitting on a $60 PSU (althought its true) a little more can get you more bang for buck
You are right, there is nothing wrong with a $60 PSU, provided you get the right one. There are quite a few budgets psus <$60 that I would be comfortable recommending for OP's rig, but that Apevia isn't even close to being one of them.
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well i did some gaming .. so far is running great .. i have 10 fans in my case .. havent done any overclock yet .. but the way you guys are talking .. it kinda scared me a lil now lol.

oh yeah btw : my cool master psu is only 50 . and i havent had any problems with it :] .
post #15 of 26
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He was commenting on the Apevia the OP linked which doesn't have any pci-e connectors. Yours may have two pci-e connectors, but I wouldn't use that PSU with anything that would need them both. From testing, we know it can only provide ~550W combined as seen here: http://jonnyguru.com/modules.php?nam...=Story&reid=78 and the 12V combined output is only 310W. 310W is horrible for a 680W PSU, or even a 550W PSU. Plus, regulation and efficiency is poor. Unfortunately, this review was done before Jon started doing more complete reviews and ripple measurements are left out. It probably wouldn't have helped it's case anyway.

It does suck to hear about Ultra screwing you. What was their reason for not honoring the warranty?

Well, they said that they would not honor the warranty if I don't have the reciept. I bought the supply in 2007, needless to say I have not been able to find it yet.

The only place that I remembered buying it from when I asked for a copy of invoice said that I ordered one but cancelled the order....I think that they just don't have proper record keeping much like myself.

Anyways, I have the original box warranty manual etc.; other manufactures such as OCZ & Asus never even ask for a receipt instead for the serial number and that's it...most of Asus products only carry a 3-year warranty.

Go figure a lifetime warranty from Ultra does'nt even last 13 months!

Funny how they also don't make the same model anymore either.

If I had the money I would buy the new Koolance liquid-cooled psu as it would solve the power limiting issues as well as no fan sounds.

Right now with my Aqua Computer 360xt, I have near quiet from it's fans...the 3870x2s' and the two psu fans are the loud ones. The fans in the VapoChill LS are as quiet as the 360xt's.

Anyways, if I can't find the receipt then I'm screwed out of $150...and again I will never buy anything from Ultra ever~!!!

Ultra power supply units are sold to people one the lifetime and it's just a scam...nothing is worse than a company that does'nt do what it claims.
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You are right, there is nothing wrong with a $60 PSU, provided you get the right one. There are quite a few budgets psus <$60 that I would be comfortable recommending for OP's rig, but that Apevia isn't even close to being one of them.

Well I bought mine from Fry's for $113.00 on sale...$130 w/tax...I usually would not have bought from them in store as better deals are online...but I could not go without a computer for the duration of shipping for an online purchased psu.

I bought it on the 17th may, so long as I can get another psu by 17th of june; I could get my moneyback. Out of all the psu at fry's I think they're all over priced and not what I would want anyways.

From the posts here I think I want to change the Apevia for this what does everyone think about this supply...it comes with two 6-pin & two 8-pin pci-e connectors too:

http://www.xoxide.com/kingwin-mach1-800w-psu.html

I could buy that one before June 17th and just take the Apevia back and get money.
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post #17 of 26
I would avoid that Kingwin. Here's a review on it: http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA==. It has some good points but overall it is a mediocre PSU and for $150 you can do MUCH better.

I should ask, you've got both of those psus hooked up so you can run 2 3870X2s right? If I can find a PSU that's ~$160 (including shipping for that Kingwin PSU) that will power your rig, would you please get rid of that Logisys PSU also? AFAIK that Logisys is another Youngyear built POS (the same as your Apevia), so not something I would trust around expensive hardware. Something like these two would be the cheapest PSUs I can recommend to run your rig: Antec TPQ-850 $160 shipped, Cooler Master Real Power Pro 850 ~$164 shipped ($170 shipped from Newegg). Both of these are very nice Enhance built PSUs (slightly different models) with 64A (768W) available on the 12V which is probably the minimum I would recommend for quad crossfire on an OCed system.
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post #18 of 26
cooler master psu >> aspire

it may run well for now, but eventually it may die out

the only time i've seen an aspire psu, was when i had to change it out


but neither the less, the psu isn't a super bad psu, it's just not as good as the one you had before.
Edited by this n00b again - 5/30/08 at 7:25am
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Alright seriously enough with the pointless reviews. I personally have used 2 of the OP's linked Apevia 500w PSU's. One in my sig rig, the other in my fiance's rig. They have both been going STRONG for over a year now. I have absolutely no troubles at all recommending the PSU I have. It provides good voltage (minimal fluctuations), and it looks good. Like I said, my sig rig has been trusted on this PSU for over a year now...no issues. Fiance's rig is almost identical to mine, except she has a 320MB GTS. Again...no issues. We've BOTH ran SLI'd 8600GTS's before...no issues.

I think your reviewer may just be biased towards those higher end PSU's there pal . I only say this because I've ran it...and there's no problems at all with that PSU.

EDIT:
Nevermind. I didn't realize the OP was wanting to do Quadfire. Yes, you WILL need a bigger PSU to handle Quadfire . The cheaper ones (such as Apevia) will not do the trick for you.

Edited by pioneerisloud - 5/30/08 at 7:28am
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The OP isn't running quadfire, he was asking about the quality of the 500W (after he bought it ). Thunder just happened to get caught up in the PSU discussion when I saw that he had some nice hardware on some crappy PSUs.

Now, on to your experiences. How do you know it provides good voltage with minimal fluctuations? Are you constantly testing with a multimeter on all 3 major voltages? Because if you aren't, then you can't claim it provides good voltage. Are you measuring ripple with an oscilloscope? Then how do you know it providing clean voltage? What constitutes "good voltage"? Yes Youngyear built Apevias can last years. Or they can last months. It all depends on how much load is put on them on average and the operating temperature. The caps in these PSUs are known for failure when exposed to high heat, and even prolonged reasonable temperatures will drastically reduce the lifespan of these PSUs. It sounds to me like you have yet to have hardware die due to cheap PSUs. I have, and that's why I try to advocate smart purchases. And pointless reviews? What is pointless about them? Don't you try to find reviews on most things you buy? These people that do the reviews I linked are in the group of people that are the most knowledgeable among the PSU reviewers. They know what they are doing and know how to judge a PSU. If they call a PSU a joke because it can't supply anywhere near it's reported power and at a laughable price, you might want to listen to them. If you paid $60 for your PSU, you were severely ripped off and hopefully you are lucky enough to not lose your computer to a PSU dying in a shower of sparks.
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