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Honestly, the 7800GS wouldn't be a bad upgrade for you. Its a great AGP card, only beaten (to my knowledge) by the AGP ATI X1950's and HD3850's. However driver support for the 3850's are limited to the manufacturer only, not ATI. You also don't want to buy a super cheap PSU either. A failing PSU can take absolutely anything that's plugged into it with it (motherboard, drives, GPU's)....I'd suggest if you're going to upgrade your GPU, get at least an Antec 500w 80+ certified (round $50 USD). Then make your move into a new GPU with whatever is left over. 7800GS, 2600XT, X1950, or HD3850 are all good choices. It just depends on your budget.
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I just noticed how dell like the P4... You just may need a new power suply first

BTW here at ocn we dont use dells
Looks like we've decided I will be buying one.

I do, certainly when they're lying around. I wouldn't use one if I was building my own but, as I have said, this is just a stropgap.

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Honestly, the 7800GS wouldn't be a bad upgrade for you. Its a great AGP card, only beaten (to my knowledge) by the AGP ATI X1950's and HD3850's. However driver support for the 3850's are limited to the manufacturer only, not ATI. You also don't want to buy a super cheap PSU either. A failing PSU can take absolutely anything that's plugged into it with it (motherboard, drives, GPU's)....I'd suggest if you're going to upgrade your GPU, get at least an Antec 500w 80+ certified (round $50 USD). Then make your move into a new GPU with whatever is left over. 7800GS, 2600XT, X1950, or HD3850 are all good choices. It just depends on your budget.
So, would I have a problem with the lack of driver support? I wouldn't mind spending a bit extra on the power supply, if it's worth doing; My real worry is buying one and finding it doesn't fit. Budget is whatever can be justifiably spent; Money really isn't a problem, value-for-money is.
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Looks like we've decided I will be buying one.

I do, certainly when they're lying around. I wouldn't use one if I was building my own but, as I have said, this is just a stropgap.


So, would I have a problem with the lack of driver support? I wouldn't mind spending a bit extra on the power supply, if it's worth doing; My real worry is buying one and finding it doesn't fit. Budget is whatever can be justifiably spent; Money really isn't a problem, value-for-money is.
I haven't had a problem with those particular PSUs, if you were bulding a new rig I would say shell out the extra for a top-quality PSU. But in this case its up to you. Dell only use budget PSUs anyway.
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Looks like we've decided I will be buying one.

I do, certainly when they're lying around. I wouldn't use one if I was building my own but, as I have said, this is just a stropgap.


So, would I have a problem with the lack of driver support? I wouldn't mind spending a bit extra on the power supply, if it's worth doing; My real worry is buying one and finding it doesn't fit. Budget is whatever can be justifiably spent; Money really isn't a problem, value-for-money is.
To be perfectly honest...if it was MY machine.....

I'd buy the 500w Antec PSU that's 80+ certified (GREAT for the money). And I'd buy the X1950 AGP card. If they have an XT version of it...that's the best one, if not...go for the X1950PRO.

Now...I say this because:
The PSU is worth it. Its decent "cheap" insurance because a newer GPU will put a good amount of load on your PSU. Like I said, if the PSU blows, you don't want it to take anything with it. Antec PSU's are quality. Not "HIGH" quality...but they're better than cheap ones.

The GPU I suggested (X1950XT or X1950PRO AGP), is because the driver support is there. You're running Windows XP, so no DX10 for you. The X1950 cards were THE BEST DX9 cards out. Even today, they still pretty well hold their own for being 2 generations behind (almost 3). I've seen an x1900GT play Crysis fluidly on medium settings (at 1280x800).

Now if you don't mind spending more money (on an AGP machine I don't think its worth it), then shoot for the HD3850 graphics cards. That is currently (to my knowledge) the BEST AGP card available. Even with the lack of driver support, they still are NOT bad cards at all. The Sapphire branded ones to my knowledge still get decent enough driver support....so its not too bad. I just wouldn't personally spend that kind of money on an AGP machine.

Just my $0.02.
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To be perfectly honest...if it was MY machine.....

I'd buy the 500w Antec PSU that's 80+ certified (GREAT for the money). And I'd buy the X1950 AGP card. If they have an XT version of it...that's the best one, if not...go for the X1950PRO.

Now...I say this because:
The PSU is worth it. Its decent "cheap" insurance because a newer GPU will put a good amount of load on your PSU. Like I said, if the PSU blows, you don't want it to take anything with it. Antec PSU's are quality. Not "HIGH" quality...but they're better than cheap ones.

The GPU I suggested (X1950XT or X1950PRO AGP), is because the driver support is there. You're running Windows XP, so no DX10 for you. The X1950 cards were THE BEST DX9 cards out. Even today, they still pretty well hold their own for being 2 generations behind (almost 3). I've seen an x1900GT play Crysis fluidly on medium settings (at 1280x800).

Now if you don't mind spending more money (on an AGP machine I don't think its worth it), then shoot for the HD3850 graphics cards. That is currently (to my knowledge) the BEST AGP card available. Even with the lack of driver support, they still are NOT bad cards at all. The Sapphire branded ones to my knowledge still get decent enough driver support....so its not too bad. I just wouldn't personally spend that kind of money on an AGP machine.

Just my $0.02.
Good advice on the whole but.
Its £93.99 for an x1950 agp in the UK - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...source=froogle
($200 ish)
And £42 for an antec 430w PSU (that cutting it fine for an x1950)- http://www.ebuyer.com/product/120376

Thats getting on for $300 on a dead platform (agp)
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I haven't had a problem with those particular PSUs, if you were bulding a new rig I would say shell out the extra for a top-quality PSU. But in this case its up to you. Dell only use budget PSUs anyway.
I would agree, anything I was building for the future would use top quality PSU, motherboard and cooling; It's not something I'd do for this though.

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Good advice on the whole but.
Its £93.99 for an x1950 agp in the UK - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...source=froogle
($200 ish)
And £42 for an antec 430w PSU (that cutting it fine for an x1950)- http://www.ebuyer.com/product/120376

Thats getting on for $300 on a dead platform (agp)
Agreed, that's quite a lot for a machine that is at end-of-life and will soon be replaced. That sort of money is a fair way towards a new desktop.
    
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