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hi there!
well i'm new here and i hoped to find some help. i'm currently building a new pc, well it's my first^^. i want something fast and overclockable, mainly for gaming purpose. i thought of something like this:

intel quad q9450 tray
zerotherm nirvana nv120
msi p7n2 diamond 790i ultra sli
2x xfx 9800gtx black edition in sli
2x seagate 500mb - 32mb cache
2048MB DDR3 OCZ PC12800 Platinum Edition CL7
NZXT Lexa Blackline Blue
LG GDR - H20N
TAGAN TG800-U33 2-Force II, 800W
Logitech MX518 Gaming-Grade Optical Mouse
Logitech G11 Gaming Keyboard

now i need your help... is this configuration ok? or should i change something?
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Hello and welcome to OCN , hope you enjoy your stay .

well, a quad core is an overkill for a gaming pc, I would rather get E8500 Wolfdale which could easily overclock to over +4GHz. That fan is alright, but I'd strongly suggest you change that mobo, it a gimmick, imo, and flawed. I think EVGA 750i SLI FTW or DFI LANPARTY DK X48 would be a better option. On the GFX side, I'd think it better to get either one GeForce 9800 GX2 or Radeon HD 3870 X2 (note that 4870 X2 is on the horizon), a SLi or CrossFire on a stick cards are better efficient and economic-wise than two separate cards, in my mind. You can replace the SG 500GB with Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD7500AAKS 750GB which is faster and cheaper than a Raptor X. A raid0 configuration is up to you to decide. Now, we come to the RAM. It's quite early for DDR3, replace them with pair of Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (4GB total) DDR2 800 or G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 1000. Last and not least, I don't know much about TAGAN PSUs, they seem good, but anyways, I suggest PCP&C Turbo-Cool 860.

edit: to utilize the whole 4GB RAM, grab a Vista x64 edition disk.
Edited by SZayat - 5/30/08 at 11:05am
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post #3 of 48
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Hello and welcome to OCN , hope you enjoy your stay .

well, a quad core is an overkill for a gaming pc, I would rather get E8500 Wolfdale which could easily overclock to over +4GHz. That fan is alright, but I'd strongly suggest you change that mobo, it a gimmick, imo, and flawed. I think EVGA 750i SLI FTW or DFI LANPARTY DK X48 would be a better option. On the GFX side, I'd think it better to get either one GeForce 9800 GX2 or Radeon HD 3870 X2 (note that 4870 X2 is on the horizon), a SLi or CrossFire on a stick cards are better efficient and economic-wise than two separate cards, in my mind. You can replace the SG 500GB with Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD7500AAKS 750GB which is faster and cheaper than a Raptor X. A raid0 configuration is up to you to decide. Now, we come to the RAM. It's quite early for DDR3, replace them with pair of Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (4GB total) DDR2 800 or G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 1000. Last and not least, I don't know much about TAGAN PSUs, they seem good, but anyways, I suggest PCP&C Turbo-Cool 860.

edit: to utilize the whole 4GB RAM, grab a Vista x64 edition disk.
That is all very good advice. The 750i FTW board is IMO, about the best sli board you can find.
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Agreed, if you are going to be gaming mainly then get the E8500 for 4Ghz +

Get yourself an XFX or eVGA 790i board if you must go SLI and DDR3.

I would advise you to stay with DDR2 at the moment anyway, its cheaper and plenty fast enough for gaming.

I personally would rather have SLI 9800GTX's than a GX2 but thats personal preference.
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Agreed, if you are going to be gaming mainly then get the E8500 for 4Ghz +

Get yourself an XFX or eVGA 790i board if you must go SLI and DDR3.

I would advise you to stay with DDR2 at the moment anyway, its cheaper and plenty fast enough for gaming.

I personally would rather have SLI 9800GTX's than a GX2 but thats personal preference.
I own the 790i, and DDR3 is the only reason to get it. It sucks so bad... I've spent more time trouble shooting for this thing than anything else I've ever owned EVER.

2 9800 gtx's is what i'd suggest too.... if you got the cash
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post #6 of 48
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Originally Posted by SZayat View Post
Hello and welcome to OCN , hope you enjoy your stay .

well, a quad core is an overkill for a gaming pc, I would rather get E8500 Wolfdale which could easily overclock to over +4GHz. That fan is alright, but I'd strongly suggest you change that mobo, it a gimmick, imo, and flawed. I think EVGA 750i SLI FTW or DFI LANPARTY DK X48 would be a better option. On the GFX side, I'd think it better to get either one GeForce 9800 GX2 or Radeon HD 3870 X2 (note that 4870 X2 is on the horizon), a SLi or CrossFire on a stick cards are better efficient and economic-wise than two separate cards, in my mind. You can replace the SG 500GB with Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD7500AAKS 750GB which is faster and cheaper than a Raptor X. A raid0 configuration is up to you to decide. Now, we come to the RAM. It's quite early for DDR3, replace them with pair of Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (4GB total) DDR2 800 or G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 1000. Last and not least, I don't know much about TAGAN PSUs, they seem good, but anyways, I suggest PCP&C Turbo-Cool 860.

edit: to utilize the whole 4GB RAM, grab a Vista x64 edition disk.
and no, the raptors are faster.
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post #7 of 48
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and no, the raptors are faster.
They are faster in access times, but not read/write times IIRC. Need to dig out the supporting article to confirm this though.

Quote:
……………………….........Raptor X ………… WD7500AAKS
Burst Speed……………….122 MB/sec...…….....185 MB/sec.
Random Access…………….8.6 ms ……………. 13.8 ms…
Average read speed……….. 77 Mb/s ………..... 77.5 MB/s
Max/min read speed………..89/58 Mb/s …… ...90/50 Mb/sec
In fairness the Raptor series still pwn - heres a nice review comparing the wd7500aaks with other drives-
http://www.storagereview.com/WD7500AAKS.sr?page=0%2C0




Edited by coffeejunky - 5/30/08 at 11:31am
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and no, the raptors are faster.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toms Hardware
With peak data rates up to 95 MB/s, the 750 GB top-of-the-line member in the Caviar SE 16 family is the fastest 7,200 RPM hard disk we've seen in our test labs to date. Even the median value of nearly 75 MB/s is on a par with that of the 10,000 RPM Raptor drive WD1500, and its minimal transfer rates clearly trump those of the competition.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...sk,1638-9.html

so they are on par, but way much cheap, and may I say quieter
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...sk,1638-9.html

so they are on par, but way much cheap, and may I say quieter
Plus 5x the storage capacity, too. But what about the WD 640GB Drive? I heard it's stupid fast.
    
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post #10 of 48
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first of all thx for all the support here
so according to all the infos i got here already..
e8400/e8500 is better for gaming
the 790i seems really to be a bad experience but i also heard the xfx 790i is the non plus ultra overclocking board. i chose the msi because it has more possibilities. well i have to think about it.
gx2 or gtx? -> i think i stick with 2 gtx because they are in sli faster than one gx2
about the hard disk i think i will follow your advice and take that WD.
ddr2 or ddr3? -> that depends of the mainboard i choose^^ ... anyway i want to run windows xp 32 bit. (or 64 bit if it delivers better gaming experience)
about the power supply: has somebody already made some experience with a tagan?
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