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Rip off alert.....UGH these prices are absurd for the minimal increase in performance. My Geil modules kick out 9700 MB/s read bandwidth at DDR2-1129 5-5-5-15 and they were $100 after MIR........

I'm waiting for prices to come WAY down after Nehalem arrives...only then will I jump to DDR3.
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Rip off alert.....UGH these prices are absurd for the minimal increase in performance. My Geil modules kick out 9700 MB/s read bandwidth at DDR2-1129 5-5-5-15 and they were $100 after MIR........

I'm waiting for prices to come WAY down after Nehalem arrives...only then will I jump to DDR3.
Funny you should say that but just recently i was considering getting a 790i and some DDR3 until i helped a guy overclock his system. Using a Core2 Quad @ 3.0Ghz (for now) and XFX 790i Ultra and 2GB OCZ 1800Mhz Cas 8 Platinums with 2x 9800GX2's in Quad SLI he gets exactly the same performance as me on the Crysis Bench.

So from a gaming point of view they do nothing for you, but if your a 3DMark junkie you'll get some better numbers.
 
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Funny you should say that but just recently i was considering getting a 790i and some DDR3 until i helped a guy overclock his system. Using a Core2 Quad @ 3.0Ghz (for now) and XFX 790i Ultra and 2GB OCZ 1800Mhz Cas 8 Platinums with 2x 9800GX2's in Quad SLI he gets exactly the same performance as me on the Crysis Bench.

So from a gaming point of view they do nothing for you, but if your a 3DMark junkie you'll get some better numbers.
So you actually saw a difference in 3dmark scores? I would think that the main difference would be flexibility of OCing the FSB right now. When Nehalem arrives who knows though? I mean we might see a much larger performance with the IMC.......maybe we've hit a performance wall with the FSB linked memory controller in the NB...
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So you actually saw a difference in 3dmark scores? I would think that the main difference would be flexibility of OCing the FSB right now. When Nehalem arrives who knows though? I mean we might see a much larger performance with the IMC.......maybe we've hit a performance wall with the FSB linked memory controller in the NB...
Well, i believe you really have to use a huge FSB to see the benefits of DDR3
 
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Well, i believe you really have to use a huge FSB to see the benefits of DDR3
OOPSIE !!!

FSB = 450 = moderate

Lets see you match that with DDR2.



And yes it does make a substantial difference im game play with regard to smoothness.
    
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OOPSIE !!!

FSB = 450 = moderate

Lets see you match that with DDR2.



And yes it does make a substantial difference in game play with regard to smoothness.
Did you read what i said? You have to use decent FSB to see the benefit. Being on a 65nm Quad your kinda limited by the FSB wall. But my guess is the benefits your seeing are actually coming from your CPU speed and not DDR3 itself. Run a test in a game with the same clock speed but with a higher multi and less FSB then show a comparison....it'll be tiny.

You know full well that synthetic benchmarks don't show the whole story.
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All this seems nice....but $675.00 USD!
That's even worse than $599 USD!!!

(PS3 launch for teh lulz. )
    
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Well, i believe you really have to use a huge FSB to see the benefits of DDR3
Ah come on, huge doesn't = decent...

Anyway here's one at 3.1:



I drop the clock speed to 3.1 and read drops ~4.5% (yet another oopsie).

And as I mentioned, big difference in gaming.

So you can believe what you want from conjecture, the numbers are above.

Synthetic benchmarks paralell the true story. Always have, always will.
    
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Ah come on, huge doesn't = decent...

Anyway here's one at 3.1:



I drop the clock speed to 3.1 and read drops ~4.5% (yet another oopsie).

And as I mentioned, big difference in gaming.

So you can believe what you want from conjecture, the numbers are above.

Synthetic benchmarks paralell the true story. Always have, always will.
And i'll let you continue with your synthetic tests. Big difference in gaming requires some form of evidence. And i already have seen the results for myself.
 
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And i'll let you continue with your synthetic tests. Big difference in gaming requires some form of evidence. And i already have seen the results for myself.

The we're seeing two different things, but Crysis, WOW, MS FSX and FS9 (both of which are resource hogs) are silky smooth compared to jitters encountered with lower bandwidth ram. If you want evidence, hook yourself up with a DDR3 board and at least 1800 MHz ram. If you could watch over my shoulder, it would be crystal clear.
    
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