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Hmm, well I came across a posting here in the forums and thought I would like to ask everyones opinion on what our current pc case might look like in the future.

As I diffinetly think this must change with the evolution of upcoming technologies.

Here is a link to the post I saw and to the article that the post was referring to...again what I ponder is how will this change our current pc setups in terms of space, shape, size, etc.

http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...ml#post3944119

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/PC-...uter,5513.html

Right now I know that quad gpu cards the most that the ATI/AMD driver software is able to handle...not sure but I think it's similar for sli...AT THE MOMENT.

But, this does not mean at some point in the next 18months that this might change...as multi-core gpus are distined to become more popular.

Even the current mb & pc case setups can always change in the near future to comfortably house 3-4 cards in case with 2 or more gpu cores on each card.

If it's one thing that we all have learned the singularity is not about to slow down nor be thrawted even by any of our current ' usual ' pc cases and mb designs at the present moment.

If one company were to invent a 4 core cpu socket...made not for servers but for workstation/pc...just imagine that impact would have on new case designs & manufacture.

Which in turn would provide ever faster graphics processing leading the way to higher resolution to meet the upcoming 3D holographic formats that are scheduled...movies...even holographic monitors?



Edited by thunder_2008 - 5/30/08 at 5:26pm
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There really have been no significant advancements in case design since ATX and mATX became the standard form factors... a case is just an enclosure for a computer after all: form factor of a case is parallel to the form factor of the motherboard... aside from that, hardware placement, airflow and style are where the only real advancements are going to be

As for motherboard companies making multi socket CPUs the norm for gaming and not servers, that would be entirely up to the CPU makers who right now, seem to be more occupied with die compression and more cores on a single socket... this path is always going to be picked over multi-socket solutions for mainstream and gaming PCs as it doesn't require communication between the two sockets, requires less cooling, etc. etc.

It's really a nice catch-22... CPU/motherboard makers aren't going to make a dicey move by changing the standard form factors because new cases to accommodate them would be needed - case makers don't make outlandish designs because they're limited by the current form factors they're trying to accommodate
Edited by killa_concept - 5/31/08 at 4:52pm
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Originally Posted by thunder_2008 View Post
Hmm, well I came across a posting here in the forums and thought I would like to ask everyones opinion on what our current pc case might look like in the future.

As I diffinetly think this must change with the evolution of upcoming technologies.

Here is a link to the post I saw and to the article that the post was referring to...again what I ponder is how will this change our current pc setups in terms of space, shape, size, etc.

http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...ml#post3944119

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/PC-...uter,5513.html

Right now I know that quad gpu cards the most that the ATI/AMD driver software is able to handle...not sure but I think it's similar for sli...AT THE MOMENT.

But, this does not mean at some point in the next 18months that this might change...as multi-core gpus are distined to become more popular.

Even the current mb & pc case setups can always change in the near future to comfortably house 3-4 cards in case with 2 or more gpu cores on each card.

If it's one thing that we all have learned the singularity is not about to slow down nor be thrawted even by any of our current ' usual ' pc cases and mb designs at the present moment.

If one company were to invent a 4 core cpu socket...made not for servers but for workstation/pc...just imagine that impact would have on new case designs & manufacture.

Which in turn would provide ever faster graphics processing leading the way to higher resolution to meet the upcoming 3D holographic formats that are scheduled...movies...even holographic monitors?
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There really have been no significant advancements in case design since ATX and mATX became the standard form factors... a case is just an enclosure for a computer after all: form factor of a case is parallel to the form factor of the motherboard... aside from that, hardware placement, airflow and style are where the only real advancements are going to be

As for motherboard companies making multi socket CPUs the norm for gaming and not servers, that would be entirely up to the CPU makers who right now, seem to be more occupied with die compression and more cores on a single socket... this path is always going to be picked over multi-socket solutions for mainstream and gaming PCs as it doesn't require communication between the two sockets, requires less cooling, etc. etc.

It's really a nice catch-22... CPU/motherboard makers aren't going to make a dicey move by changing the standard form factors because new cases to accommodate them would be needed - case makers don't make outlandish designs because they're limited by the current form factors they're trying to accommodate

What you say is very true indeed the Atx & matx are the standard for the present...perhaps atx more so than matx...in that much more accessories such as sound cards, etc. are available for the atx as opposed to the latter.

Still I suppose my thoughts are on the first link, which shows a computer with " 4-9800x2...they're not in sli...if so only two are...i believe they are more for 4gb gpu power over shared/integrated sli.

Anyways, my point is that I believe regardless of the fact that computer cpu & gpu cores are multipling on single cpu & gpu cards there will always be an increased offering such as now dual cpus for skull trail & server mb...as well as in the case of the pc in the 1st link 4 gpu cards...

In order to fit all of this into a case and as you pointed out cool it as well...it is going to take slightly different case designs to allow for accommodating all 4 gpu cards....

It's not the drivers that are limiting this ...it is the economics...which of course is a very big thing...

But here's why I feel this will change quite soon. The enthuiast pc market...it is not decreasing at all...in fact as time rolls along it is only growing on many fronts.

Drivers will soon in my opinion be made available for this enthuiast pc crowd...so that ever higher 3Dmark 06 & vantage scores can push the envelope into infinity.
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But, this does not mean at some point in the next 18months that this might change...as multi-core gpus are distined to become more popular.
All modern GPUs are internally collection of parallel "processors". It's just question how many transistors it is practical to put into single die. (and multiple dies can be put into one physical package instead of separate ones)


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Even the current mb & pc case setups can always change in the near future to comfortably house 3-4 cards...
If you're fan of PC gaming you better drop that line.
If more than one graphic card becomes mandatory for running games at above mediocre graphical settings that's very bad for PC gaming.

Do you think that huge majority of people buying PC's want to pay for graphic card which can be as expensive than most of the other components inside chassis or would even consider getting more than one graphic card?
That will drive lot of masses toward consoles for gaming which would eventually leave PC with very little else to play than console ports and 3dMark.

For example sales of Crysis were low probably already because of very heavy system requirements... And now Crytek is focusing to consoles.
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All modern GPUs are internally collection of parallel "processors". It's just question how many transistors it is practical to put into single die. (and multiple dies can be put into one physical package instead of separate ones)


If you're fan of PC gaming you better drop that line.
If more than one graphic card becomes mandatory for running games at above mediocre graphical settings that's very bad for PC gaming.

Do you think that huge majority of people buying PC's want to pay for graphic card which can be as expensive than most of the other components inside chassis or would even consider getting more than one graphic card?
That will drive lot of masses toward consoles for gaming which would eventually leave PC with very little else to play than console ports and 3dMark.

For example sales of Crysis were low probably already because of very heavy system requirements... And now Crytek is focusing to consoles.
Hmm you make for some interesting points...economics often decides all in relation to pc purchases.

Yes be far the majority of folks buying pcs' as a package from fry's, staples, best buy, etc. make purchases dependent upon their needs and budgets.

However this is not demographic group that I was referring towards. I look at futuremark.com/orb site shows that within the past 7days' nearly 50k+ people have submitted benches for just the 3Dmark06.

Of those test numbers the vast majority have higher end gpus...which seldomly are included in bought pcs', in fact while smaller still a number of these have more than one gpu card as well.

This site and hundreds more cater to overclocking and perfomance computers, this is the " enthuiast " demographic which I am referring towards; further in general it is the envelop pushering done by this demo. that has inspired many of the technical acheivements that are incorporated into our modern computers.

Changing case designs to accomodate 3-5 cards of course is something that the majority of pc users & buyers may never achieve. However, the amount of pc users able to afford 2 or more cards is ever growing with the drop in costs as tech. advances.

This has and will make the case size shape demand different than it is at present...in terms of when this would change the current atx standard appears to be seen.

Soon we will have drivers for upto 8 cores 4each card...for x-fire & sli...I really think that it won't stop there.
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