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nazis never had nukes. tried to make then, but the US made the first nuke, and nazis lost the war before they could build one.
Germany doesnt even have nukes of their own now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...uclear_weapons
Are you seriously wanting to have a historical debate about the origins of the nuclear bomb? You clearly know very little to even question Nazi Germany attempting to build a bomb. I didnt say theyd built one, but they were the first nation to put the bomb building into action. That was the point


And any moron knows that Germany was reduced to the role of neutral military after ww2. Hence no nuclear bomb.

You may resume trolling for pedantic facts and websites to make it look like you arent losing face, btw.
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Are you seriously wanting to have a historical debate about the origins of the nuclear bomb? You clearly know very little to even question Nazi Germany attempting to build a bomb. I didnt say theyd built one, but they were the first nation to put the bomb building into action. That was the point

And any moron knows that Germany was reduced to the role of neutral military after ww2. Hence no nuclear bomb.

You may resume trolling for pedantic facts and websites to make it look like you arent losing face, btw.
To be honest, i can see why he had a problem with your earlier posts - they come across as ignorant and aggressive...

While the Germans were trying to make a nuclear missile during the war, they never even really cracked nuclear technology in the way that America and Russia did. However a lot of the Russian nuclear technology came from the German scientists at the end of the war.

Your earlier posts seem to give the impression that you thought that Nazi's had a lot of nukes and that the USA just got all of their technology from them. They didn't, so think about how you have worded your posts before complaining about someone when you yourself have got it wrong.

You also seem to be saying that because he wants to try heavy water, he must be from the middle east and therefore IS most definitely a terrorist who wants to nuke us... well... im not even going to explain why you were wrong here.

You seemed to be the one who was trolling, then you actually decide to reply in a slightly intellectual manner... but you don't have much to stand on due to your earlier childish and ignorant posts.

Now, lets get back on topic instead of having some stupid argument over who invented nuclear technology.
Edited by Fusion Racing - 5/31/08 at 5:07am
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To be honest, i can see why he had a problem with your earlier posts - they come across as ignorant and aggressive...

While the Germans were trying to make a nuclear missile during the war, they never even really cracked nuclear technology in the way that America and Russia did. However a lot of the Russian nuclear technology came from the German scientists at the end of the war.

Your earlier posts seem to give the impression that you thought that Nazi's had a lot of nukes and that the USA just got all of their technology from them. They didn't, so think about how you have worded your posts before complaining about someone when you yourself have got it wrong.

You also seem to be saying that because he wants to try heavy water, he must be from the middle east and therefore IS most definitely a terrorist who wants to nuke us... well... im not even going to explain why you were wrong here.

You seemed to be the one who was trolling, then you actually decide to reply in a slightly intellectual manner... but you don't have much to stand on due to your earlier childish and ignorant posts.

Now, lets get back on topic instead of having some stupid argument over who invented nuclear technology.
Owned.
Edited by jNSK - 5/31/08 at 5:07am
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Owned.
amen to that

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How is that a good thing in a watercooling system where you want to get the heat away from the waterblock as fast as possible? It's not like a nuclear power station where the water is going to boil...
the moderator is completly different to the water that actually boils. the moderator sits around the control rods and fuel rods to slow down the neutrons and keep heat. (ive been studying for my yr 11 exams next week ) what i was wondering is if it were viable, because heavy water is harder to heat up or cool down, would it, if money weren't a problem, be possible to reduce temps even further by using heavy water.
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EDIT : You aren't getting confused with hard water are you?
hehe, that's what we have in our pipes up here in the NW USA
clogs up our sinks after a while, we gotta clean the filters out

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nazis never had nukes. tried to make then, but the US made the first nuke, and nazis lost the war before they could build one.
Germany doesnt even have nukes of their own now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...uclear_weapons
They're not allowed to build nukes if I remember correctly
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There would be no noticable difference -
http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/data.html
Its thermal conductivity is roughly the same as H2O

EDIT: Although feel free to correct me if I am wrong on this.
Edited by coffeejunky - 5/31/08 at 6:10am
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There would be no noticable difference -
http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/data.html
Its thermal conductivity is roughly the same as H2O
H2O: 0.610 W m-1 K-1 (25°C) [IAPWS]
Ice Ih: 2.4 W m-1 K-1 (-20°C) [717]
gas: 0.025 W m-1 K-1 (100°C, 101.325 kPa) [540]

hmm, now i have to ask (sorry) would it be possible to put a gas (any kind) in a gas-cooling system , but have it below 10C?
would this be viable? im only asking as im curious thats all lol




edit: im thinking of gases like argon, xenon etc. as well as a compressor and metal pipes
Edited by Mxbn0 - 5/31/08 at 6:27am
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hehe, that's what we have in our pipes up here in the NW USA
clogs up our sinks after a while, we gotta clean the filters out


They're not allowed to build nukes if I remember correctly
no country that doesnt already have them is allowed by the US. >_>
i wish our government would grow some balls and get some for us.
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DOH would be way cheaper but it would be way too expensive anyhoo.
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athe moderator is completly different to the water that actually boils. the moderator sits around the control rods and fuel rods to slow down the neutrons and keep heat. (ive been studying for my yr 11 exams next week ) what i was wondering is if it were viable, because heavy water is harder to heat up or cool down, would it, if money weren't a problem, be possible to reduce temps even further by using heavy water.
My point was the idea of having water is to keep the copper as cold as possible - therefore, because the water isn't heating up as quickly and therefore isn't carrying as much heat, wouldn't the copper get hotter and therefore the CPU would be hotter?

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H2O: 0.610 W m-1 K-1 (25°C) [IAPWS]
Ice Ih: 2.4 W m-1 K-1 (-20°C) [717]
gas: 0.025 W m-1 K-1 (100°C, 101.325 kPa) [540]

hmm, now i have to ask (sorry) would it be possible to put a gas (any kind) in a gas-cooling system , but have it below 10C?
would this be viable? im only asking as im curious thats all lol
Yes - it's called phase change cooling. Single stage is where you have one loop (the gas is pumped up the evaporator to the CPU, where it is heated , then it is condensed into a liquid, cooled back to a gas and pumped back around) and then you have Cascades where you have several Single Stages cooling each other to give the lowest possible temperatures.

Because of the pressure and expensive parts these aren't cheap and they aren't quiet either
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