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Can anybody help me know what my actual cpu temps are what is still safe for me to OC upto as I am lost in all these tjunction and tmax's lol
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I just got one of these to test because i heard people where getting 3.2 to 3.4 out of them. my god they are running hot 70+ now that is amazing you could cook your bake beans on that lol
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Can anybody help me know what my actual cpu temps are what is still safe for me to OC upto as I am lost in all these tjunction and tmax's lol
Quite frankly, no one knows, and there is no way to tell what your actual, absolute CPU temps are (at least the on-die ones).

All you can do is take the temp reported, and subtract it from the listed tjmax. This difference is the only useful number you are ever likely to get. The bigger the difference the better.

Also, idle temps are meaningless. The on-die DTS is not calibrated for them.
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Can anybody help me know what my actual cpu temps are what is still safe for me to OC upto as I am lost in all these tjunction and tmax's lol
Well, most people compare temps by taking the TjMax as 100*C. So you should add 15*C to load and idle temps to compare with others. However, as blameless has said it is the distance to Tjmax that matters. Just keep it below 65*C or 80*C and you will be fine. That being said these are very durable chips so don't wrry too much.

HWMonitor reads the temps 'correctly'

I also recommend you do a reseat. The temp difference between the two cores is quite a bit. My 2 cores idle and load equally (e.g 47*C and 48*C)

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Page 84 is just an example. It says right on it that it is not meant to depict an actual implimentation.

Page 71 also states that the THERMTRIP is set to approximately 20C above the tCASE (which is 61.4C on the E2180, according to table 28).

Given than the tC and tJ should be reached at the same temp (on-die temps really are 20-25C warmer than the top of the heatspreader), the THEMTRIP should not be reached untill atleast 105C, or 120C if the tjmax is really 100C.
Very well researched. Thankyou for reading through that. I must say it confused me a bit . Nevertheless, I personally would not like to go over 80*C for 24/7 usage.
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HWMonitor reads the temps 'correctly'
HWMonitor, Core Temp, and RealTemp can all read the delta to tjmax correctly. However, all of them have to guess at what the true tjmax is.

So the distance to tjmax is most useful.

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Very well researched. Thankyou for reading through that. I must say it confused me a bit . Nevertheless, I personally would not like to go over 80*C for 24/7 usage.
Better safe than sorry I suppose.
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I've attatched the only version of coretemp (0.96) that reads the TjMax as 100*C, which is actually very hard to find now.
And yes, its best to use delta to Tjmax and keep that above 20*C
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Man I still confused as ever. What I don't get is why you say the Tjunction should be 100 when it says 85 I dunno maybe no one knows, bit of a pain imo.
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Man I still confused as ever. What I don't get is why you say the Tjunction should be 100 when it says 85 I dunno maybe no one knows, bit of a pain imo.
Nobody knows really. Intel have not released the spec for TjMax, so we have to assume based on other processors. Because M0 stepping generally has a TjMax of 100*C it seems improbable that M0 would come in two varieties, so the higher value is chosen just to be on the safe side.
Edited by coffeejunky - 6/4/08 at 2:06pm
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wow guess iam lucky i got crappy parts and use ide drives etc and a 965p abit budget board i hit 3.2ghz no prob with the zalman 9700nt and with both cores maxed it was orthos stable over 24hours and never got above 55C on either core that was the max temp btw my chip was made 9/18/2007
    
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