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I remember when Tom'sHW reviewed the gx2 they said it averaged 40% or so better performance than the 3870x2....so if the 4870x2 is 30% better than that, we're looking at a helluva card when the x2 comes out. even so, doesn't look like it'll be enough to beat out the gtx280 if this nvidia chart is accurate.



http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/GeFo...ance/5817.html
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I wouldnt trust that chart just because everything varies except the 3870x2, plus nvidia did it.
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post #13 of 24
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I wouldnt trust that chart just because everything varies except the 3870x2, plus nvidia did it.
It doesn't vary because they are showing how many times greater the Nvidia cards are, so the X2 always shows as "1" because the Nvidia cards are just however many times that the performance is, so if it is twice as tall it is twice as good, kinda.

That said, it is very deceptive, since it cut off 0-.8 it seems like the Nvidia line are alot taller than they are, they "zoomed in" to make the difference look greater than it really is. It is a common trick.
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I wouldnt trust that chart just because everything varies except the 3870x2, plus nvidia did it.
the reason the 3870x2 doesn't change is it shows how 100% performance would be againts the gt200's

anyway never take any of it as truth from either side and wait for reviews

EDIT: dam beatme to it
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I remember when Tom'sHW reviewed the gx2 they said it averaged 40% or so better performance than the 3870x2....so if the 4870x2 is 30% better than that, we're looking at a helluva card when the x2 comes out. even so, doesn't look like it'll be enough to beat out the gtx280 if this nvidia chart is accurate.



http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/GeFo...ance/5817.html

They're calling for both 260 and 280 to perform 2.5x better in Call of Juarez? That game is ATi coded.. huh?

Obviously the 280 will beat the 4870x2 but what about the 260 since they fall in the same price point. Here's hoping ATi can pull something very special out with the R700.
    
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I remember when Tom'sHW reviewed the gx2 they said it averaged 40% or so better performance than the 3870x2....so if the 4870x2 is 30% better than that, we're looking at a helluva card when the x2 comes out. even so, doesn't look like it'll be enough to beat out the gtx280 if this nvidia chart is accurate.
Well if the graphs and %s are completely correct, then:
GX2 = 1.4(3870x2)
4870x2 = 1.3(1.4(3870x2))
4870x2 = 1.82(3870x2)

So it would outperform the GTX260 in all situations except World in Conflict and CoJ, and be on par with the GTX280 in Crysis, Oblivion, FEAR, and UT3. Of course this is all theoretical and assuming the base percentage statistics are true, and that the the chart is completely accurate. So it essentially means nothing at this point because we don't really have anything more than assumptions.

Either way though, both seem like pretty nice cards
    
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4870 x2 will be 30% faster than GX2 and
4870 will be 40% faster than 9800/G92 GTS
Damn! I hope thats true! If so, I am going to be getting dual 4870X2s for quadfire and finally retire this single 2900pro.
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They're calling for both 260 and 280 to perform 2.5x better in Call of Juarez? That game is ATi coded.. huh?

Obviously the 280 will beat the 4870x2 but what about the 260 since they fall in the same price point. Here's hoping ATi can pull something very special out with the R700.
I believe there was 30-40% speed increase in COJ with 8.5 drivers.
Don't remember about aprils drivers.
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Either way I think I might skip these next series of videocards, with what I have, I would be better off getting an E8500, or someone in chat brought up the E8600 with a x10 multi, that would tide me over for awhile since I can still play everything out there except crysis at max settings.
You'd be better off buying a 24" monitor not an E8500.
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I believe there was 30-40% speed increase in COJ with 8.5 drivers.
Don't remember about aprils drivers.
if you click the vr-zone link I posted in addition to the chart, you'll see that the 8.3 drivers were used for the comparison. sneaky-sneaky.
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