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hating stuff for vague, unevidenced reasons is 'cool'

and rofl @ comparing the worst far cry screenshots to the best hl2 ones.
Edited by bionh - 5/31/08 at 1:19pm
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You want proof? Go play COD4, TF2, and Bioshock and report how many fps you got in all three of those games and than play Crysis and tell me how many fps you get on it maxed out without AA or AF. When you realize that you get over 4X as many fps in the three games that I listed over Crysis yet some of those games actually look better than Crysis you will realize that Crysis is severely unoptimized. I mean, I have seen people get 3fps in Crysis maxed out with sli 8800GT's, what can look so amazing to the point where two 8800GT's in sli only get you 3fps?

Crysis surely doesn't look nearly good enough to be getting 3 fps on a system like that. That would mean that it would have to look around 26X better than COD4 which obviously isn't the case at all. Four 9800GX2's cant even max it out and Cevat or w/e his name is lied about how well that it would run and scale with X64 and quad cores.

You could also take a look at FarCry compared to HL2 which were both released around the same time period and see that HL2 uses way higher resolution textures and it looks way better than Farcry yet there wasn't a card out during the release of Farcry that could even run the game on high yet when HL2 was released it could be ran maxed out on most systems yet it looks way better than Farcry. That is proof right there that Crytek does a terrible job when it comes to making their games run good.

HL2 http://myego.cz/img/grafika/half-life-2b.jpg http://games.softpedia.com/screenshots/9-237_3.jpg

Farcry http://www.cheats.ru/uploaded/f/farcry01991.jpg http://www.grandcentralgaming.co.uk/images/farcry.jpg
Go play TF2, COD4, BioShock and tell me how many trees you can chop up into tiny pieces, how many buildings you can destroy, how many chicken you can pick up, how large the maps are, how far the view distance is, how many vehicles there are, how smart the AI is, how often you swim underwater, ect.

Then tell me they are valid comparisons for Crysis.

FarCry doesn't look like that on my computer. But notice how much farther you can "see" in Crysis. Notice how many more objects there are being rendered.
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Go play TF2, COD4, BioShock and tell me how many trees you can chop up into tiny pieces, how many buildings you can destroy, how many chicken you can pick up, how large the maps are, how far the view distance is, how many vehicles there are, how smart the AI is, how often you swim underwater, ect.

Then tell me they are valid comparisons for Crysis.
well, the crysis AI was pretty terrible
post #34 of 113
You guys are getting it wrong. It IS optimized. For nvidia.....

I'm looking forward to far cry 2 since it isn't being made by cryfail. I think ubisoft will do a good job.
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well, the crysis AI was pretty terrible
Compared to COD4 AI, Crysis AI is human like.

COD4 AI is pretty primitive, they just spawn and shoot at you until you hit a specific trigger point that stops them.
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when going from 1 gpu to 4 gpu's does nothing. The fact the game released w/o any sli or crossfire support.
That kinda scaling is done by nVidia and ATi in the drivers, not by the game devs I believe
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You want proof? Go play COD4, TF2, and Bioshock and report how many fps you got in all three of those games and than play Crysis and tell me how many fps you get on it maxed out without AA or AF. When you realize that you get over 4X as many fps in the three games that I listed over Crysis yet some of those games actually look better than Crysis you will realize that Crysis is severely unoptimized. I mean, I have seen people get 3fps in Crysis maxed out with sli 8800GT's, what can look so amazing to the point where two 8800GT's in sli only get you 3fps?

Crysis surely doesn't look nearly good enough to be getting 3 fps on a system like that. That would mean that it would have to look around 26X better than COD4 which obviously isn't the case at all. Four 9800GX2's cant even max it out and Cevat or w/e his name is lied about how well that it would run and scale with X64 and quad cores.

You could also take a look at FarCry compared to HL2 which were both released around the same time period and see that HL2 uses way higher resolution textures and it looks way better than Farcry yet there wasn't a card out during the release of Farcry that could even run the game on high yet when HL2 was released it could be ran maxed out on most systems yet it looks way better than Farcry. That is proof right there that Crytek does a terrible job when it comes to making their games run good.

HL2 http://myego.cz/img/grafika/half-life-2b.jpg http://games.softpedia.com/screenshots/9-237_3.jpg

Farcry http://www.cheats.ru/uploaded/f/farcry01991.jpg http://www.grandcentralgaming.co.uk/images/farcry.jpg
Sorry, but that's just so wrong.
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Go play TF2, COD4, BioShock and tell me how many trees you can chop up into tiny pieces, how many buildings you can destroy, how many chicken you can pick up, how large the maps are, how far the view distance is, how many vehicles there are, how smart the AI is, how often you swim underwater, ect.

Then tell me they are valid comparisons for Crysis.

FarCry doesn't look like that on my computer. But notice how much farther you can "see" in Crysis. Notice how many more objects there are being rendered.
I might not be able to chop up trees in the games I listed but I can blow up barrels, manipulate objects with real time physics, and there are rag dolls too. BTW cutting up trees really isn't graphically intensive at all as it uses the CPU and it has been shown that Crysis wont even use 100% of the CPU so that would prove my point even more as to why it is so unoptimized. BTW when you chop up the tree's it isn't even dynamic so I don't see a big deal with that at all. I don't see your point with the map sizes as there are some huge maps in TF2, Bioshock, and COD4 that are even bigger than some of the maps in Crysis.

The AI is also a joke in Crysis so I don't see your point there either :/. You can pick up objects in HL2 which is like a 4 year old game so picking up chickens isn't anything major. Those buildings that you destroy aren't really destroyed either. Each building has a top made out of metal sheets that might get blown away and the wood just disappears when you break it. Nothing revolutionary at all and not a good reason to be getting terrible fps on all systems. BTW if Farcry doesn't look that bad on your computer than lets see some screen shots because as far as I'm concerned it looks that bad maxed out on my computer too.

You also still haven't answered any of my questions....If anything you proved my point even more. Just because when HL2 was released it was the first game to offer fully dynamic physics where you could move all of the objects and what not and there was rag dolls. Yet, it could run maxed out on any decent system at that time without any fps problems.
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You want proof? Go play COD4, TF2, and Bioshock and report how many fps you got in all three of those games and than play Crysis and tell me how many fps you get on it maxed out without AA or AF. When you realize that you get over 4X as many fps in the three games that I listed over Crysis yet some of those games actually look better than Crysis you will realize that Crysis is severely unoptimized. I mean, I have seen people get 3fps in Crysis maxed out with sli 8800GT's, what can look so amazing to the point where two 8800GT's in sli only get you 3fps?

Crysis surely doesn't look nearly good enough to be getting 3 fps on a system like that. That would mean that it would have to look around 26X better than COD4 which obviously isn't the case at all. Four 9800GX2's cant even max it out and Cevat or w/e his name is lied about how well that it would run and scale with X64 and quad cores.

You could also take a look at FarCry compared to HL2 which were both released around the same time period and see that HL2 uses way higher resolution textures and it looks way better than Farcry yet there wasn't a card out during the release of Farcry that could even run the game on high yet when HL2 was released it could be ran maxed out on most systems yet it looks way better than Farcry. That is proof right there that Crytek does a terrible job when it comes to making their games run good.

HL2 http://myego.cz/img/grafika/half-life-2b.jpg http://games.softpedia.com/screenshots/9-237_3.jpg

Farcry http://www.cheats.ru/uploaded/f/farcry01991.jpg http://www.grandcentralgaming.co.uk/images/farcry.jpg
So....in order to prove that Crysis is poorly optimized, we should go play games with WAY less detailed graphics and much less complex AI, then compare screenshots of two games from over 4 years ago?
Pass it to the left man......that must be some good stuff you're smoking
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