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I'll send you a bonetrail mobo if you send me a 3870X2 lol
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I'll send you a bonetrail mobo if you send me a 3870X2 lol
With the watercooling block or not

If it were the skulltrail on the other hand
    
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Skulltrail = 4870 X2

And actually I just found a nice looking northbridge waterblock for my board on dangerden.com. Think I'm going to pick that up, some hoses, another reservoir, and then that should tide me over for computer purchases until the 4870's come out.

You think you'll have better luck with the QX on that board? I wouldn't scrap the whole system just because the board has been a PITA!
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After lots of lecture, turns out the CPU Reference Voltage is the fabulous GTL (at least according to some sources)
Didn't I tell you that, here.

One thing, doesn't your bios have a PC Health or H/W Monitor of some kind? I know my Gigabyte does and I checked, if I put it on Auto, after a reboot, when I look in the health monitor in the bios, sure enough most of the voltages it's using are displayed right there.
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What kills me is that your voltages are so few and far between. It's like "Choose CPU voltage" and your options are 1.1volts OR 3.5volts. I would expect the next BIOS revision to address that because that 45nm chip has a max recommended voltage of 1.362 so you should have 15 voltage choices below that and a few above it as well.
That's what I got stuck on, and I'd like to know if his Auto settings are taking advantage of steps between this.
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Yes, the BIOS clearly states I have a Q9450@266 GHz
Um, that's just a string inside the CPU. Windows Vista tells me I have an E6420 @ 2.13GHz even while I was running 3.55GHz last night (you've gotten me to re-clock my machine, lol). This doesn't mean your BIOS actually knows your chip, and rpm666 was right to question this given your BIOS' odd voltage choices.
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Have you tried to tap key's like cntrl - F1 or so?
For example, on my board Ctrl-F1 from the main screen unhides the CPU GTLRef1 and CPU GTLRef2 entries (and nothing else).
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And actually I just found a nice looking northbridge waterblock for my board on dangerden.com.
You think you'll have better luck with the QX on that board? I wouldn't scrap the whole system just because the board has been a PITA!
I like the Koolance NB in These pictures.

Baretsu: is there nobody near you who'd let you borrow a decent motherboard to test this? I mean, if your motherboard is the problem, you're doing a lot of work to prove that. Consider a Foxconn, Gigabyte, Asus, or DFI. Those are all solid choices.

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I'm still trying to sell him on getting mine lol.

Thanks for that link it's nice to see what's under the northbridge without have to take out the board...again. By the time I'm done with this I will have to upgrade it to the Antec 1200.
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Didn't I tell you that, here.
I'm not trying to take any credit here ... it is thanks to you guys I started reading all this stuff and this article in particular learned me a few things ... but truly, I've been spending the last week but reading ... and booting ... and resetting ... and reading ... and ... ... ...
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One thing, doesn't your bios have a PC Health or H/W Monitor of some kind? I know my Gigabyte does and I checked, if I put it on Auto, after a reboot, when I look in the health monitor in the bios, sure enough most of the voltages it's using are displayed right there.
That's what I got stuck on, and I'd like to know if his Auto settings are taking advantage of steps between this.
As do most of my monitoring programs (for CPU, that is) ... yes, the "AUTO" settings takes the voltages in between ... FRUSTRATING ENOUGH I CAN'T BUT SOMETIMES!

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Um, that's just a string inside the CPU. Windows Vista tells me I have an E6420 @ 2.13GHz even while I was running 3.55GHz last night (you've gotten me to re-clock my machine, lol). This doesn't mean your BIOS actually knows your chip, and rpm666 was right to question this given your BIOS' odd voltage choices.
I know it's just a string, but it does mean it recognizes the processor (not the speed dude), and let me tell you two weeks ago I couldn't even boot the machine due to the processor not being recognized (hence I 'borrowed' a P4 541 at the office so I could upgrade the bios)

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For example, on my board Ctrl-F1 from the main screen unhides the CPU GTLRef1 and CPU GTLRef2 entries (and nothing else).
Interesting ... I definitely going to try this as well! Those stupid settings (like the F4) are never mentioned anywhere!

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I like the Koolance NB in These pictures.
Nothing wrong with these blocks on my mobo ... runs rather cool and looks even cooler

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Baretsu: is there nobody near you who'd let you borrow a decent motherboard to test this? I mean, if your motherboard is the problem, you're doing a lot of work to prove that. Consider a Foxconn, Gigabyte, Asus, or DFI. Those are all solid choices.
In Belgium it's all MSI and ASUS mate ... with a bit of searching you may found a Gigabyte (still quite some shops selling these) but that's about it! Which I never switched from an ASUS (used ASUS over the last 12 years or so)

So ... let me spend some more time trying the impossible! I'm somehow convinced it has to work (or is that refusing to believe it doesn't ) ... and I'm somehow even more convinced a better bios would solve the problem straight away!
    
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+1 rep for still being alive with your motherboard lol.
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+1 rep for still being alive with your motherboard lol.
Thanks! I'll definitely try to screw that up tonight as well :swearing:

BTW, just found out one hell of a strange thing on this bios: so, the cpu voltage goes

1.250 - 1.375 - 1.500 - 1.625 - 1.750 - 1.875 (as before, and all white - so called safe - values by the way!!!) but than 1.1000 - 1.1125 - 1.1250 - 1.1375 - 1.1500 - 1.1625 - 1.1750 - 1.1875 - 1.2000 - 1.2125 - 1.2250 - 1.2375 ... ... ... in these little steps it goes all the way up to 1.8000v !!!!!!

Now the last time I was in school, 1.250 and 1.2500 were exactly the SAME! But the first one is a white value (safe), while the second one a red one (unsafe or not recommended)! And could this be a possible answer to my problems? It wasn't in bios v1.3, but it is in this one! Could this be? Would this be?? Will this be???
    
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lol I think MSI might have just given up on this board by the time it took for you to buy it. I would try to find someone else who has the same board and see what issues they have with it if any. I looked around and tried to find out more info on it and basically just found a bunch more of your posts on a dozen other forums lol.

You may just have to put the NB/SB/FSB voltages all in red and try again. This seems to be a very poorly written bios.
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You may just have to put the NB/SB/FSB voltages all in red and try again. This seems to be a very poorly written bios.
Oh, so you still call this a bios??? I call this screwing up big time, and yes, I will start playing around with the red values ... maybe they had a colorblind guy writing it!
    
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