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i know that is what would make most sense, but IMO -no offence- its a little short sighted to think it can be the ONLY explanation when Intel specifically stated it isnt looking for SLI rights.
Intel wants SLI rights. A few other articles mentioned it and why wouldn't Intel want it? It is very simple for them to implement and would sell more of their chipsets.
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post #12 of 33
with all the arrogant remarks getting dished out by Nvidia lately, serves them right. I hope Intel sticks it to the man over there.
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post #13 of 33
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But when it comes to NVIDIA (its current biggest competitior in the desktop chipset market for Intel CPUs), Intel is def keeping the pressure on them.
well that is obvious.
I'm just hoping you are right, and Intel is just trying to cover it all up.
then again, im not too interested in SLI yet.

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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
Intel wants SLI rights. A few other articles mentioned it and why wouldn't Intel want it? It is very simple for them to implement and would sell more of their chipsets.
thats the same thing i was wanting to know.
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with all the arrogant remarks getting dished out by Nvidia lately, serves them right. I hope Intel sticks it to the man over there.
LOL, but Intel is the man. I know NVIDIA is being a little snide towards Intel. But I think Intel pushes them around behind the scenes. While I wish Intel would support SLI, I shudder at the thought of Intel dominating the market with NVIDIA out of the picture (Intel wants to compete against them in the video card niche as well). I'm sure NVIDIA keeps the pressure on Intel to make a better product, and vice versa; Its the same with NVIDIA and ATI. We need more competition! The industry is an Oligopoly and could use more competitors, not less.
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post #15 of 33
wished they'd both agree and release the intel variant of the m-atx geforce 8300/8200
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post #16 of 33
you make money by selling chipsets to the mobo manufactor's rather than just giving your license away for free. Thats the gist, you could say intel is the bully by demanding the license.

I'm kinda relieved ATI did this before the AMD/ATI merger but It would have made more sense for intel to merge with ATI since they were closer to begin with. Intel chipsets promote crossfire, which promote ATI products which help AMD, strange situation.
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you make money by selling chipsets to the mobo manufactor's rather than just giving your license away for free. Thats the gist, you could say intel is the bully by demanding the license.

I'm kinda relieved ATI did this before the AMD/ATI merger but It would have made more sense for intel to merge with ATI since they were closer to begin with. Intel chipsets promote crossfire, which promote ATI products which help AMD, strange situation.
Well what other option did Intel have? With NVIDIA not willing to budge on SLI, Intel only had crossfire. Imagine if they couldnt use crossfire and you could only run a single card in an Intel board...
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post #18 of 33
I don't know what to think. I prefer intel boards so I'd love to have to option to run SLI, but I feel NV shouldn't be bullied into giving up their tech. I must meditate on this.

here's a very good explanation of the situation from a (not too) technical standpoint.

http://www.nehalemnews.com/2008/05/e...halem-sli.html
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Bloomfield incorporates a single QuickPath interconnect link between the CPU and the IOH. For NVIDIA to offer a chipset alternative that would support SLI, they would simply need to develop a North Bridge chip with a QuickPath interface as shown in the following diagram. The rest of the IOH, namely the PCIe lanes and the HT link to their South Bridge is "off-the-shelf" for NVIDIA. Even the QuickPath interface is not a complex undertaking, thus making the license the key factor in whether such a product will ever see the light of day.


One other sidebar to this story, is that if SLI is supported on Nehalem, NVIDIA's quirky chipset issues shouldn't affect Nehalem overclocking. While NF6 and NF7 Intel chipsets were plagued by quirks and poor quad-core overclocking compared to their Intel counterparts, this situation will not recurr on the Nehalem platform. With Nehalem, the memory controller is now on-die with the CPU and out of the chipset... thus removing NVIDIA completely from the CPU and memory overclocking equation and relegating their technology strictly to GPU and I/O management where it is best served as in the days of the NF4 chipset.
there's more at the site I linked to.
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post #19 of 33
Here is an interesting thread related to this topic:
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This started out as a rumor today, but Intel has since more-or-less confirmed that licensing discussions between Intel and Nvidia for Intel's next-generation processors are not going well and the resulting conflict could have implications for high-end gaming PCs.

The story is that Intel and Nvidia are currently negotiating technology licenses for Nehalem, Intel's next-generation desktop CPU due out at the end of this year. As we were told from multiple desktop vendors who wish to remain nameless, Intel wants to license SLI from Nvidia for its Nehalem chipsets, and if Nvidia won't, Intel will withhold the license that would enable Nvidia to support Nehalem's memory controller, and thus Nehalem, on its own chipsets.

We have no official confirmation from Nvidia on this, and Intel's statement from PR manager Dan Snyder is vague, but it lends credence to the story:

"There is a disagreement between Intel and Nvidia as to the scope of Nvidia's license from Intel to make chipsets compatible with Intel microprocessors. Intel is trying to resolve the disagreement privately with Nvidia and therefore we will not provide additional details. It is our hope that this dispute will be resolved amicably and that it will not impact other areas of our companies' working relationship."

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post #20 of 33
Intel is the bully.

Nvidia stands to loose a lot in this deal. Intel stand to loose nothing, only gain in fact.
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