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Why's that?
Because that doesn't apply to mainstream users like us
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Because that doesn't apply to mainstream users like us
true,but the server market does have an effect on the desktop market we use. Better sales and advances in the server section of AMD can benefit us as well.
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post #13 of 36
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Because that doesn't apply to mainstream users like us
Perhaps.

On the other hand, as far as AMD is concerned, many technologies and design details that started out on their server platforms eventually made their way to the consumer sector as well.

It's like motor racing (Formula One fans should take note: AMD's code names for this generation of server parts are taken from the names of F1 circuits and locales): Racing improves the breed. In this case, AMD's presence in the server market (which is the side of the market many observers always ignore when making comparisons with AMD) is more than healthy enough. Technologies and designs intended for the server sector trickle down and find applications in the consumer sector.
    
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post #14 of 36
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Why's that?
Well unless you have some magical Phemon or Athlon XP processor that overclocks to 5GHz whenever you sprinkle fairy dust on it, it should be quite obvious why this is article is a bunch of bologna for anyone with a desktop processor.
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Looks good for AMD on the server side! It'll help them recoup some losses and allow them to grow the desktop side of things. I can't wait for AMD to be back on top.
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Well honestly I still use my Athlon XP and my Socket 754 Athlon 64 and they actually still work well. Their only limitation is the motherboards but I've got the 2 top of line mobos that were released for them. So I can honestly say, my AMD's rock socks. But it's good to read the news about it

AMD all the way.
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post #17 of 36
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Well unless you have some magical Phemon or Athlon XP processor that overclocks to 5GHz whenever you sprinkle fairy dust on it, it should be quite obvious why this is article is a bunch of bologna for anyone with a desktop processor.
The article hits on more than just the Phenom. It seems from your statement your here to flame the thread. Maybe I'm misreading you,but that's how it looks to me.

I don't see how an article shedding positive light on AMD marketing for the next few years is "bologna" I can see the positives about servers being able to upgrade without having to swop out entire systems just to use better chips. Servers are not looking for Ghz as much as they are scalability which AMD processors provide better than Intel.
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post #18 of 36
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The article hits on more than just the Phenom. It seems from your statement your here to flame the thread. Maybe I'm misreading you,but that's how it looks to me.

I don't see how an article shedding positive light on AMD marketing for the next few years is "bologna" I can see the positives about servers being able to upgrade without having to swop out entire systems just to use better chips. Servers are not looking for Ghz as much as they are scalability which AMD processors provide better than Intel.
Well then you apparently ignored the word "dekstop" in any of my posts. If you want to assume I am here to flame then go ahead, but my statements are more than justified, which you would have noticed had you read them carefully. Even in the quoted portion of the article it says that Intel is using years-old technology (and this coming from the author and not quoted from some reputable, unbiased source). So you tell me, then, if Intel is using years-old technology how they are still managing to stick to AMD in the desktop market? That is precisely why I said that this article is a load of crap if it is trying to encompass the desktop market in its statements. (It was not entirely clear to me from reading the article whether or not it was solely about the server segment.) I made no mention of its validity regarding the server segment.

The second half of your second paragraph has absolutely no bearing on anything I've said, so I'm not quite sure what you are getting at there.

Finally, anyone who thinks I am flaming anything by stating the truth about the desktop market in terms of Intel's dominance of AMD at the moment needs to get their panties out of a bunch. I am the last person you will see jump on a fanboy bandwagon, especially when it comes to processors.
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post #19 of 36
AMD is selling their platform, intel is selling their CPUs... right?
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Stargate does have a point, it is interesting for folks interested in servers, however for the rest of us, it doesn't mean crap. The benchmarks they use are not oriented toward encoding times etc.. they are for functions a server might perform and how well the sockets communicate, something FSB is not good for (multi sockets that is).

Servers are the last real bastion that AMD has right now for performance.

We will see this week though how everything will be in the future, 45nm AMD vs Nehalem and QPI.
    
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