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Well then you apparently ignored the word "dekstop" in any of my posts. If you want to assume I am here to flame then go ahead, but my statements are more than justified, which you would have noticed had you read them carefully. Even in the quoted portion of the article it says that Intel is using years-old technology (and this coming from the author and not quoted from some reputable, unbiased source). So you tell me, then, if Intel is using years-old technology how they are still managing to stick to AMD in the desktop market? That is precisely why I said that this article is a load of crap if it is trying to encompass the desktop market in its statements. (It was not entirely clear to me from reading the article whether or not it was solely about the server segment.) I made no mention of its validity regarding the server segment.

The second half of your second paragraph has absolutely no bearing on anything I've said, so I'm not quite sure what you are getting at there.

Finally, anyone who thinks I am flaming anything by stating the truth about the desktop market in terms of Intel's dominance of AMD at the moment needs to get their panties out of a bunch. I am the last person you will see jump on a fanboy bandwagon, especially when it comes to processors.


From the way I'm reading it and understand it, The article it speaking about marketing in the server field on both AMD and Intel towards their customers. It doesn't seem to mention anything about the desktop market. The writer only mentions Opteron's and Xeon, so I am assuming the article is about the server market.

I didn't say you were here to flame. I said your comment read like that.So I apologize.
Edited by GuardianOdin - 6/1/08 at 7:18pm
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post #22 of 36
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Well unless you have some magical Phemon or Athlon XP processor that overclocks to 5GHz whenever you sprinkle fairy dust on it, it should be quite obvious why this is article is a bunch of bologna for anyone with a desktop processor.
Anyways if you bothered to read the article it's clearly about sever processors, which btw have a much larger return on investment than any desktop/consumer cpu will ever have, no fairy dust needed.
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I'll go check, i can't believe i managed to forget it.


http://www.overclock.net/view.php?pg=rulestos
fair enough, i'll change it, plus i don't know how i have PMs locked out, the box is checked and set to everyone... so i don't understand.
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Anyways if you bothered to read the article it's clearly about sever processors, which btw have a much larger return on investment than any desktop/consumer cpu will ever have, no fairy dust needed.
i agree with your general sentiments; however i am not sure that server market will be larger return as middle classes of developing countries (India has a middle class of 300mil, more than entire US pop.) with $ to spend emerge
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i agree with your general sentiments; however i am not sure that server market will be larger return as middle classes of developing countries (India has a middle class of 300mil, more than entire US pop.) with $ to spend emerge

You do have a point here, but none or very few of these processors will sell for the prices AMD or Intel can get out of their server chips, some of which go for well over a $1000 for a single chip.
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true,but the server market does have an effect on the desktop market we use. Better sales and advances in the server section of AMD can benefit us as well.
Almost all of AMD's advantages in the server market are attributed to better memory control and faster chip-to-chip communication between processors. As (most) of our systems have only one chip, it doesn't matter to us.
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Yes, the article was discussing the Xeon & Opteron processors. But answer me this, if this was exclusively for server performance, why are there many AMD users that have Opteron processors in their desktop systems?? This would tell me that they have advantages in the desktop performance as well, given proper motherboard capabilities. So this could be viewed as a potential partial roadmap for some desktop usage, especially for the enthusist. It seems that more overclocking people are able to milk more out of the opteron processors than the "desktop" processors.

It's just something to think about based on the article.
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Yes, the article was discussing the Xeon & Opteron processors. But answer me this, if this was exclusively for server performance, why are there many AMD users that have Opteron processors in their desktop systems?? This would tell me that they have advantages in the desktop performance as well, given proper motherboard capabilities. So this could be viewed as a potential partial roadmap for some desktop usage, especially for the enthusist. It seems that more overclocking people are able to milk more out of the opteron processors than the "desktop" processors.

It's just something to think about based on the article.
The old Opterons used to be overclocking beasts, thus the usage.

Their advantages are most clear in multi-socket configurations, something very few people use. There is still the advantage of it on the desktop, however it is not only small, but doesn't have much of an effect.
    
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Can't we all just get along
    
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Can't we all just get along
In a thread that has a positive opinion about AMD?....Probably not. Thou it would be nice for a change
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