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(Noob!) Trying to get more out of my Pentium D 930

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Hi I've search around here and elsewhere and it seems I have a **** ass Mobo for overclocking so I need some help.

I started overclocking for the 1st time yesterday after reading guides here and elsewhere.

I hit the wall as soon as I started has I couldn't push my FSB above 205 (mobo will just reset). Looked around here and vry few had the same mobo or setup as me so I googled. Found an article on a reviewer clocking the 930 to 4.15 GHz on stock corev and heatsink fan (so I kinda tageting 3.60-3.80GHz).

Read from some oth OC forums and some post said updating the bio ver could help. So I updated from ver 3.6 to 3.7 and it brought the wall down.

So here are my current Mobo OC settings

DDR v 1.80

NB v 1.65

CPU v 1.320

CPU FBS 230

PCI-E f 110

PCI f 32.0

This setup runs fine, tested it with Orthos Blend and Small FFts and both passed with no errors.

Idle CPU temp 37-40C
Idel System temp 46-50C

Load CPU(during Orthos) 43-58C
Load System(during Orthos) 53-58C

Now I'll List the diff FSB I used and what I noticed

230 - boots into windows, stable

234 - guessing game btw booting into windows or a blackScreen before login screen.

237 - BlackS before login screen

241 - Mobo resets

I'm also kinda worried bout my Rams I hav 4x512MB Value Cosair PC2-5300 (333MHz stock) at 5-5-5-15

but they are running at 383.4MHz after my OC, they don't have heatsinks or anything....=.=

So now I need some help getting my CPU above my current 3.45GHz with my stock cooling or maybe a few suggestion for cooling parts for some1 on a very tight bugget.

Because I from Singapore the price and what parts available could be very diff from you guys so below here I'll include my local price watch sites and a link to manuals and parts of my Pc so you guyz can browse through easily and help me soon!

Refer to pricewatch to see prices
Parts that are available in Singapore
MSI 945P Neo 2-f Spec and Manual
My Ram Spec
My CPU
Edited by animemaniac - 6/2/08 at 3:53am
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post #2 of 10
well as long as you can run your ram 1:1 you should be fine. if you havent set ram 1:1 do so
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well as long as you can run your ram 1:1 you should be fine. if you havent set ram 1:1 do so
Umm how exactly do you do that? The guides all mention them but never state how to do it. I'm kinda guess this is a Mobo feature, if that is the case my Mobo doesn't have that feature or at least I think it doesn't.
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post #4 of 10
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umm I think I finally understood the 1:1 concept. So I underclocked my ram to 533MHz
and I managed to clock higher with new setting in my Mobo.

DDR voltage 1.90

NB voltage 1.55 (stock)

CPU voltage 1.280 (stock)

CPU FBS 245

PCI-E frequency 110

PCI frequency 32.0 (can't get 33.3, either 32.0 or 36.0, whick 2 use?)


This time round I wasn't as impatient as b4 and I got used to the Mobo and managed to get some interesting finds. Its seems I could clock my FBS higher without increasing the cpu's voltage but instead by upping the voltage of the ram from 1.80 to 1.90.

So now My CPU is clocked at 3675MHz Ram at 533MHz 5-6-6-15
Load CPU(during Orthos) 51-53C
Load System(during Orthos) 43-47C

Should I clock my cpu further with my temps in mind and considering I'm using stock cooling

What voltage is safe for my rams? I can't seem to find the spec sheet for them.

How bout my ram timings, should I tighten them? can some1 shed some light on it, still not sure of the subject.
Edited by animemaniac - 6/2/08 at 12:47pm
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If possible, RAM that can't keep up with the CPU requires a divider, but not all Intel MB due to what chip set may or may not offer that option. I'm still a bit of a n00b with current Intel stuff
    
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What cpu cooler are you using? I dont see that anywhere. Those PD's run very hot
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im sure i read somewhere that the 945 chipset has serious OC limitations
(correct me if wrong)....

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What cpu cooler are you using? I dont see that anywhere. Those PD's run very hot
Cause I read somewhere is a post on a review that the reviewer manage to clock his 930 to 4.1GHz on stock voltage and cooling with acceptable temps.

So I'm using the stock heatsink fan, just trying to get as much Mhz from my CPU.

Posted my temps are around 51-53C with an occasional 58C.

Anyway If I'm thinking of overclocking higher any coolers to recommend?

Currently I have just the 2 fans that came with my case 12cm(outake) 9cm(intake) and my CPU's heatsink fan.
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im sure i read somewhere that the 945 chipset has serious OC limitations
(correct me if wrong)....

yea loads of ppl have problems with it. thats why I called it a *****ass mobo in my 1st post.

but after some research manage to get my 930 from 3GHz to 3.675GHz, is this considered a bad OC?
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post #10 of 10
Drop your CPU FSB Ratio multiplier as low as you can go

Then raise up your FSB as high as you can get stable, then raise the multies back up unless you hit stability issues again.

This general method is good for making sure your CPU isnt just limited, and that infact it is your RAM and/or motherboard
    
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