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I sell custom built PCs and I would like to ask a few questions regarding the E2xxx series of Intel CPUs...Apologies if some may be obvious and there are one or two I guess I should know...

OK, here come the questions:

1. Are the CPUs (E2140, E2160, E2180, E2200 and E2220) all EXACTLY the same, except for clock speed and maybe multiplier?

2. Does overclocking automatically invalidate the warranty?

3. Can they be easily overclocked on the stock heatsink/fan without needing a third party cooler?

4. The plan is to overclock the CPU on DDR-667 value RAM and I'd like to be able to achieve the performance of either an E4300 or E6300...I'm guessing all of the CPUs in the range can achieve this? Does anyone know how much I'd need to overclock it by?

5. So, er...what one should I go for?
    
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post #2 of 19
1. yes
2. yes but they can't tell sometimes if you put them back to stock speed
3.to 2.4-2.6 GHz yeah go for 2.4
4.a 2810 at 2.4GHz is faster or equal to a E6300 at stock
Edited by A Russian :D - 6/2/08 at 6:01am
    
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...2. yes but they can't tell sometimes if you put them back to stock speed...
Huh? the OC is done through to motherboard, not the chip. how would they be able to tell based on what they get from the chip?

OP: These things can get good OCs with just the stock HSF. You just want to keep the temp below ~61*C (and look around because there is some controversy as to whether the Tj Max. of these chips is 85*C or 100*C meaning a difference of 15*c in temp readings) And technically, and OC voids your warranty. But intel has loosened on that rule so your good if you OC.
Edited by stumped - 6/2/08 at 6:09am
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ok....

1.....yes the only difference is the stock clock

2.....yes in theory OCing would void the warrantee but OCing leaves no footprint ...
.''yes but they can't tell sometimes if you put them back to stock speed''..??
...the clock speed is determined by the board so as soon as the chip comes out there is no trace of what u were running

3.....stock cooling will be sufficient for a modest OC nothing major...

4.... 667mhz ram will limit your OC u will have to keep the highest multi & in my experience my 2180 loves the x8 multi ...it wont boot OCed on a x10
i suggest 800mhz for OCing freedom

5..... get the 2160 or 2180 they are both good for 3.2ghz & more so why pay more for the 2200 2220

just my thoughts.......
Edited by skunksmash - 6/2/08 at 6:17am
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hahahah im such a noob omg at #2 hahaha
    
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I suppose what is really important is that it won't severely reduce the life of either the CPU or the motherboard. I will offer the overclock as a free option, although some customers may want their PC to be working still in 8 year's time.

The motherboard will be a P5KPL-VM by the way.
    
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I suppose what is really important is that it won't severely reduce the life of either the CPU or the motherboard. I will offer the overclock as a free option, although some customers may want their PC to be working still in 8 year's time.

The motherboard will be a P5KPL-VM by the way.
if you only oc to 2.4-2.6 it will last more than 8 years
    
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A 2160 or 2180 can compete with e6xxx anytime espescially with high oc of 3.2 or more it
smashes "stock" e6xxx performance
Edited by D.J.S. - 6/2/08 at 6:29am
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Smal thread highjack but I can buy a e6300 for 39 euro's and an e2160 for 33 euro which one should I buy I am planning to overclock.
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Smal thread highjack but I can buy a e6300 for 39 euro's and an e2160 for 33 euro which one should I buy I am planning to overclock.
I would naturally go for the E6300. 2MB L2 cache, as opposed to 1MB, for one, it's a much higher performing cheap at default settings without even needing to overclock.
    
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