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post #21 of 30
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I had a crazy idea the other day and it would pertain to this subject quite nicely.

A motor, an alternator, and a relay... Jump the motor from an external source (Battery, PSU, etc) and use a belt to turn the alternator. Then, the relay kicks in and kills the external power while the alternator provides the juice.
Impossible. (If I'm following you correctly anyway) An alternator is not 100% efficient thus it would slow down quite rapidly and stop moving altogether after a short time.
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Yeah, I had that brilliant idea that I presented to my parents until they looked up how much power the computers actually consume and said that it isnt worth it.

was an idea that I had but I dont really know how to make it work.

Realistically, we need to find a way to that the energy that the computer puts out (heat) and make good use of that. In the winter its easy (heat the house) but we need something constructive for the summer.
Due to new advances in the inverters and in the construction of the solar cells themselves, solar arrays now pay for themselves within 10 years of the initial investment. Always good info to have when one is trying to convince their parents.
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post #23 of 30
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You mean you want the System to power itself after removing the start power?
That's not working^^
Parts of the energy is turned into heat and a magnetic field.

If you're already out of school you didn't listen in the physics class ;o)
I went to a school that was mainly taking in rejects and general dropouts. I have no idea why my parents put me there, but jeez did I miss out on a lot of schooling.

Anyways, why not put the alternator in an anti-magnetic box of some sort?
    
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Impossible. (If I'm following you correctly anyway) An alternator is not 100% efficient thus it would slow down quite rapidly and stop moving altogether after a short time.
The motor will be hooked up to the alternator... hence the pulley-belt system.
    
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Anyways, why not put the alternator in an anti-magnetic box of some sort?
I'm not sure how you mean this.

Using all the magnetic energy produced inside the Generator is just impossible.
That would mean there should be no axle and a perfect coil.
Another problem is the self-induction.

Ahh, and any wiring between the generator and engine will have a little loss, too.
A wire with running current through it produces a little magnetic field around it.



But anyway the main problem with all mechanical machines is the friction.
There is friction between different body's (even between metal and the air).
Parts of the energy will always be turned into heat.
Edited by MESeidel - 6/2/08 at 3:39pm
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post #26 of 30
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The electronics does not run off the battery, as you say it.
the Battery is linked parallel [look on wiki for linear and parallel circuits if you have questions ;o) ].
The whole Car runs perfectly fine without a battery (only that you can't start it).

A medium class car has a 45 - 70 A alternator.
And they are chosen to power all your stuff in any case.
Only if you put in a very strong Audio Amplifiers, you can get in trouble ;o)

If you're already out of school you didn't listen in the physics class ;o)
2 things, 1, an alternator can run all electronics for s short time, but its extremely hard on it, it will only last so long with such a load, it will over time over heat and die, id give it a week of runnign normal run times without a battery before it dies

also, ASE certified over here they teach more about cars than physics
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2 things, 1, an alternator can run all electronics for s short time, but its extremely hard on it, it will only last so long with such a load, it will over time over heat and die, id give it a week of runnign normal run times without a battery before it dies

also, ASE certified over here they teach more about cars than physics

Well I never tried it - so good to know
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You just have solar or wind left.
What about a watermill?
    
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Well it was a good idea for a car audio setup anyways >_>
    
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What about a watermill?
You would need a "good" sized mill to generate power, which means you need a "good" sized flow of water to run it.
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