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I wouldn't bet on everything in that CPU-Z shot to be 100% accurate.
yeah... however much i would love a 20x multi, i honestly doubt it
post #12 of 46
omg 20x multiplier!
post #13 of 46
While the multiplier may be high, I bet they aren't capable of very high bus speeds. 133mhz? wow. I definitely like that vcore though!
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yeah... however much i would love a 20x multi, i honestly doubt it
I thought this article provided some interesting insight as to why that would be the case to have such a high multiplier.
http://www.nehalemnews.com/2008/05/e...r-domains.html

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However, we do know a considerable amount about the clock and power domains of AMD's native quad-core Phenom CPU's which have many elements in common with Nehalem. Barcelona/Phenom, has three primary clock domains all based off of a common reference clock... one for the cores, one for the L3 cache and memory controller, and one for the HyperTransport Link. This design provides for maximum flexibility in managing power efficiency and performance.

By combining what has been reported to date about Nehalem's clock and power structure, and leveraging what we know about AMD's native quad-core product, we can draw some reasonable conclusions about the design of Nehalem.

Reference Clock: The diagram above illustrates that like Phenom, Nehelam will leverage a reference clock. This reference clock will provide a stable clock signal to all CPU and bus driven components in the system with individual clock domains. Adjusting this clock up or down will affect all other clocks in the system. Expect the reference clock frequency to be some multiple of 33Mhz to start such as 200MHz, 233MHz, etc. (The Phenom reference clock is 200MHz).

Core Clocks: To support EDAT, Nehalem must support individual core clock multipliers to throttle core clocks up and down in relation to load and power profiles. Whether these individual multipliers will be accessible through BIOS is completely unknown. It's very probable that only a base core multi will be exposed to users and the individual core clocks will not be user accessible. Expect the base core multiplier to be in the range of 6 to 16 and upward locked on non-Extreme processors.

Overclocking Example

If overclocking Nehalem is anything like overclocking an AMD Phenom native-quad core, here's what you can expect for a possible stock Bloomfield processor:
  • Reference Clock: 200MHz
  • Core Clock: Default Multi = x16 (16 x 200Mhz = 3.2GHz)
  • L3/IMC Clock: Default Multi = x10 (10 x 200MHz = 2GHz)
  • QuickPath Clock: Default Multi = x16 (16 x 200MHz = 3.2GHz)
  • Memory Bus Clock: Default Ratio based on SPD
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OMG 0.865 core voltage
no way!!! that is godly.
    
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I like the idea of it being 45% faster then Yorkfield.
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While the multiplier may be high, I bet they aren't capable of very high bus speeds. 133mhz? wow. I definitely like that vcore though!
Even if that speed is accurate, it's irrelivant.

The memory controler is part of the CPU, the external clock is no longer the FSB.

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yeah... however much i would love a 20x multi, i honestly doubt it
Welcome to 2003/2004.

Seriously, I though people had educated themselves about how chips without FSBs (as we formerly understood them) worked when the A64s came out.
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Even if that speed is accurate, it's irrelivant.

The memory controler is part of the CPU, the external clock is no longer the FSB.



Welcome to 2003/2004.

Seriously, I though people had educated themselves about how chips without FSBs (as we formerly understood them) worked when the A64s came out.
the core 2 era has been around for a long time. it's going to take some time for people to re-accustom themselves to different architectures.
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Intel has been back on top for what? 2 years? AMD can never truly beat Intel because companies are forced to buy from Intel because AMD can't meet the world's demand. Intel doesn't need performance, AMD does. If it wasn't for AMD Intel would hold the world in the palm of their hand.
AMD was on top for like what? 4 years? I was talking performance wise, not marketing wise. I know that Intel has always sold more than AMD but performance is what matters to us. Now that Intel has been on top they have been making significant performance improvements while when AMD was on top each new architecture presented maybe a 5% improvement and their chips were very expensive.

I mean socket 939 was released 4 years ago and they STILL don't have a chip that is significantly or really any faster than it. Intel has been doing good so far, they have been smoking AMD performance wise yet they have extremely cheap chips that perform and overclock amazingly well for such a cheap price. If AMD was still on top we would have $800 quad cores running older architectures.

Simply put, I would rather have Intel on top performance wise deciding the prices than AMD.
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Intel has been back on top for what? 2 years? AMD can never truly beat Intel because companies are forced to buy from Intel because AMD can't meet the world's demand. Intel doesn't need performance, AMD does. If it wasn't for AMD Intel would hold the world in the palm of their hand.
Agreed. AMD really needs a boost.....Intel is going to start charging a real premium....hopefully that hasn't already begun with the rumors of OCing disabled CPUs except for the high end chips...
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