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I thought this article provided some interesting insight as to why that would be the case to have such a high multiplier.
http://www.nehalemnews.com/2008/05/e...r-domains.html
most certainly a delicious article.
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Intel has been back on top for what? 2 years? AMD can never truly beat Intel because companies are forced to buy from Intel because AMD can't meet the world's demand. Intel doesn't need performance, AMD does. If it wasn't for AMD Intel would hold the world in the palm of their hand.
If it wasnt for AMD we'd have Intel "Netbursts"(p4) at 6.0ghz lulz
post #23 of 46
Wouldn't it say 'Bloomfield' rather than 'Nehalem'?

Oh well.. Maybe we'll see and hear something official over the coming days.
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AMD was on top for like what? 4 years? I was talking performance wise, not marketing wise. I know that Intel has always sold more than AMD but performance is what matters to us. Now that Intel has been on top they have been making significant performance improvements while when AMD was on top each new architecture presented maybe a 5% improvement and their chips were very expensive.

I mean socket 939 was released 4 years ago and they STILL don't have a chip that is significantly or really any faster than it. Intel has been doing good so far, they have been smoking AMD performance wise yet they have extremely cheap chips that perform and overclock amazingly well for such a cheap price. If AMD was still on top we would have $800 quad cores running older architectures.

Simply put, I would rather have Intel on top performance wise deciding the prices than AMD.
Alright, lets wait for Nahalem. Look at the best Nahalem chip out and its price. Compare that to the price of the Best Athlon FX chip when AMD was on top. I guarantee Intel sets the pricing bar immensely higher despite the fact its cheaper to make Nahalem then it was Athlon FX (manufacturing technology yields will be greater.)

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If it wasnt for AMD we'd have Intel "Netbursts"(p4) at 6.0ghz lulz
No Intel updates its lineup with a new architecture every 2 years. Would might not have our glorious achieve in computing Core2 or Nahalem coming but it wouldn't be Netburst it is against Intel's schedule.
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post #25 of 46
hmmm something just occurred to me...
why would intel use DDR3 1333/1600 for a 133 Mhz bus..? id say it would be 333/400. right where Penryn leaves off.

EDIT: maybe memory and bus will operate completely independantly?
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Alright, lets wait for Nahalem. Look at the best Nahalem chip out and its price. Compare that to the price of the Best Athlon FX chip when AMD was on top. I guarantee Intel sets the pricing bar immensely higher despite the fact its cheaper to make Nahalem then it was Athlon FX (manufacturing technology yields will be greater.)



No Intel updates its lineup with a new architecture every 2 years. Would might not have our glorious achieve in computing Core2 or Nahalem coming but it wouldn't be Netburst it is against Intel's schedule.
We will wait and see but you have to remember that the high end FX's (FX55,57,60,62) all used to cost around $1,000 and I think the FX60 dual core cost like $1,100. If Intel releases their top end Nehalem quad core and it cost's like $1,300 you have to remember that its a quad core and that its going to be WAY faster than a FX60 dual core.

All that I know is that if the only overclockable Nehalems are going to cost $500 and up I wont be going Intel regardless. Ill just have to wait until AMD releases Bulldozer if that is the case, which really inst a problem for me anyways considering that I'm happy with the performance I am getting right now.
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We will wait and see but you have to remember that the high end FX's (FX55,57,60,62) all used to cost around $1,000 and I think the FX60 dual core cost like $1,100. If Intel releases their top end Nehalem quad core and it cost's like $1,300 you have to remember that its a quad core and that its going to be WAY faster than a FX60 dual core.

All that I know is that if the only overclockable Nehalems are going to cost $500 and up I wont be going Intel regardless. Ill just have to wait until AMD releases Bulldozer if that is the case, which really inst a problem for me anyways considering that I'm happy with the performance I am getting right now.
It doesn't matter if its faster the top of the line is the top of the line. You can't compare old CPU prices to new ones with performance in mind. Even now their prices are hundreds above what AMD prices the best CPU in the world (for x86) at the time. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115044

And Nahalem will only be more expensive.
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post #28 of 46
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While the multiplier may be high, I bet they aren't capable of very high bus speeds. 133mhz? wow. I definitely like that vcore though!
Core 3 doesn't have a bus....
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post #29 of 46
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Good, I'm glad that Intel is back up on top performance wise. They have been beaten by AMD for too long and AMD was slacking off with their Architectures and it looks as though Intel has been putting in a lot of R&D into their new processor's and motherboards.
Errr...have you been under a rock for the past couple of years? Us AMD Boys have been kinda kicking our feet in the dirt waiting for a magic architecture to really bring the competition back. Lets face it, when the major Processor companies take slugs at each other - WE, the consumer, Win.
    
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Looks like AMD is in for more rough times.
Yup =\\

Oh well, I hope Intel doesn't screw us all when pricing everything.
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