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[techreport] Microsoft to sidestep Vista pitfalls with Windows 7

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Microsoft executives officially maintain that Windows Vista is selling well and that they're happy with the operating system. Behind closed doors, however, Microsoft is working hard to make sure Windows 7 doesn't run into the same problems as its predecessor.

According to News.com, Microsoft plans to be "more careful" going public with Windows 7's future functionality, largely to avoid disappointments in case it fails to deliver. The news site quotes a Microsoft representative as saying, "We know that when we talk about our plans for the next release of Windows, people take action . . . As a result, we can significantly impact our partners and our customers if we broadly share information that later changes."

Another major problem with Vista was hardware support, and Microsoft doesn't want a repeat of the same situation there, either. InformationWeek says Microsoft has told its hardware partners to start testing their products with Windows 7 as soon as the first beta rolls out. Hardware makers that don't start testing early "won't qualify for Microsoft's Windows Logo certified compatibility program for Windows 7 or Windows Vista," InformationWeek adds.
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Good. I can't wait for this. I will completely jump Vista.
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Hardware makers that don't start testing early "won't qualify for Microsoft's Windows Logo certified compatibility program for Windows 7 or Windows Vista," InformationWeek adds.
Wow, that is way too harsh. /sarcasm
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good, lets hope people jump on and get the stuff compatible fast ... no need for more idiots bashing a new good os
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This just goes to support my theory that Vista is simply a cash grab for Microsoft.

Rather than delay the release of the OS so that they can get all of the new features (originally supposed to launch with Vista) operating properly they released a half ass bandaid-money-grab OS with system requirements similar to what they plan on releasing with Windows 7 to get people to upgrade.

They knew this all along.

...and aliens are after my brain!
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vista is a joke. It feels half-assed. I am running vista right now on my sig rig with only 1gb of ram with everything i can find related to "fluff" settings and it still runs way slower than xp does...

Not sure what my conclusion is, just that even toned down vista still cant run right.
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The biggest problem with hardware support in vista is that companies didn't bother to actually make their products work. They just sat on their hands for two years and whined that their designed-for-XP stuff didn't work.
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the whole idea about MS requiring vendors to have their drivers go through a "digital signing" process before you can install the drivers was a bad move.

I really don't think its Microsoft's place to be able to control what hardware drivers are put out for whatever OS. I know in XP, you can install a driver without a signature. In vista, there is no easy way around it.
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vista is a joke. It feels half-assed. I am running vista right now on my sig rig with only 1gb of ram with everything i can find related to "fluff" settings and it still runs way slower than xp does...

Not sure what my conclusion is, just that even toned down vista still cant run right.
Yeah because your running it with only 1GB of ram,But with 4GB of ram it runs smooth and fast.
 
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Yeah because your running it with only 1GB of ram,But with 4GB of ram it runs smooth and fast.
I think his argument is that on the side of the box is says required is 512MB and recommended is 1GB. When you run something at recommended specs, it should run smoothly until you start loading it with crapware.
    
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