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Hey guys, I'm currently building two new rigs. One, and with which I am more familiar is an AMD machine, and the other, Intel. I'm not too up to date on the intel boards and could really use some advice from a few of your with some more experience.

I went ahead and purchased a ASUS Striker Extreme 680i for $200, which, from what I saw from some quick check on sites like pricegrabber and some quick google-research, is a pretty good deal (especially with free shipping). It wasnt until after the auction ended that i started to look a little deeper into Intel boards. I see that the ASUS Striker II Formula(780i?) and ASUS Striker II Extreme are also out, and I'm sure theres more to fill in the gap between Striker I and Striker II.

I'm planning on sticking a Q6600 in my new board, or, reselling it for a little more and buying something a little better. (I work for Geek Squad, and I'm sure someone will be interested in a cheap ASUS Gaming Board.)

So, with the latest and greatest from the Intel Boards, do you think this one is for me?

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  2. Heat Managment?
  3. Gamer, Gamer, Gamer?

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Well, Striker is not the best nVidia chipset mobo for Q6600, but it should allow FSB of little over 400. The reason for that is the stupid design ASUS made for 680i chipsets, where nVidia own reference design does a lot better.

Ur best bet for an nVidia mobo is EVGA 750i FTW (200$), there won't be any troubles with overclocking what so ever and then u have a 2x16 PCI-E 2.0 slots for SLI.
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You will be very lucky to surpass 3.2Ghz on a Q6600 with the striker.
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You will find it difficult to OC on the ASUS 680i motherboard with a quad.

3.0GHz-3.2GHz will probably be your limit. Its not just the FSB Hole at play here, it is the GTL REF voltage. The ASUS 680i motherboards struggle to OC the quad core. The problem is a hardware issue. The ASUS 680i motherboards do not follow the NVIDIA reference design, while they are great overclockers with the dual cores, they are not in any way good overclockers with the quad cores. This is due to the GTL voltage supplied to the CPU. The rev A1 680i boards released by NVIDIA (rebadged by EVGA, XFX and BFG) fixes this issue. Unfortunately ASUS will not do anything about it. So this is a hardware issue that will never be fixed by bios updates.

Here is some documentation:
Vr-Zone A1 revision

There is a way to modify the board to compensate for this:
Vr-Zone Ketsfield mod





I dont recommend the mod at all. But it does help illustrate the issue.
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Ah, I see. What should I look for if my goal is 3.5Ghz, or maybe a bit higher?
Any guestamate how high I would be able to go with an EVGA 750i?
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Originally Posted by ericeod View Post
You will find it difficult to OC on the ASUS 680i motherboard with a quad.

3.0GHz-3.2GHz will probably be your limit. Its not just the FSB Hole at play here, it is the GTL REF voltage. The ASUS 680i motherboards struggle to OC the quad core. The problem is a hardware issue. The ASUS 680i motherboards do not follow the NVIDIA reference design, while they are great overclockers with the dual cores, they are not in any way good overclockers with the quad cores. This is due to the GTL voltage supplied to the CPU. The rev A1 680i boards released by NVIDIA (rebadged by EVGA, XFX and BFG) fixes this issue. Unfortunately ASUS will not do anything about it. So this is a hardware issue that will never be fixed by bios updates.

Here is some documentation:
Vr-Zone A1 revision

There is a way to modify the board to compensate for this:
Vr-Zone Ketsfield mod





I dont recommend the mod at all. But it does help illustrate the issue.

Thanks for that! Great to know.
Edited by jack16 - 6/3/08 at 1:32am
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i have read about alot of people having to rma there boards and also having troubles with ram
Edited by whe3ls - 6/3/08 at 1:52am
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I think the eVGA 750i FTW is proving to be the best SLI based overclocker. People are even selling off their 780i to get one! It also has2 full PCI-E X16 slots, which other 750i boards do not have.

edited: Screenshots removed for "The Rocker"

Here is an OCN thread on the 750i FTW.

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post #8 of 21
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Hmm, seems I'm going to be reselling this board.

Ok, now besides the NVIDIA 750i FTW, is there anything else worth considering?
Please keep it around 250 if possible.

EDIT: Wow, great responses. So the NVIDIA 750i is close to unbeatable in price and performance for the quads?
Edited by jack16 - 6/3/08 at 1:37am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jack16 View Post
Hmm, seems I'm going to be reselling this board.

Ok, now besides the NVIDIA 750i FTW, is there anything else worth considering?
Please keep it around 250 if possible.
The 750i would be my number 1 NVIDIA SLI board of choice. I dont think Whe3ls was refering to the 750i FTW. I have heard/seen nothing but good things about it.

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evga 680i a1/t1
These boards are OK, but very problamatic. Check my sig for my 680i thread. I ran an eVGA 680i A1 for quite a while. I went through 5 RMAs each time getting a new board. I never went over the NVIDIA recommended voltages either.

The 750i FTW is a better choice as it has much more OCing potential. The board does over 515 FSB with dual cores as well. The 680i has serious strap issues and struggles to reach 480 FSB with even dual cores (see chipset strap issues in the 680i thread).
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