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Kingston Memory & Asrock Dual Sata Motherboard...

I have 2gb of PC3200 made by Kingston...

Under the BIOS:
Total Memory = 2048MB (IN Dual CHannel Memory Mode)
DDR1 - none
DDR2 - none
DDR3 - 1024MB / 200MHz DDR400
DDR4 - 1024MB / 200MHz DDR400

Advanced > CPU COnfig
Memory Clock = 200 MHz DDR400
Flexability Option = Enabled
CAS - Auto
TRAS - Auto
TRP - Auto
TRCD - Auto
TRRD - Auto
TRC - Auto
MA Timings - Auto
Burst Length - 4 Beats
Bank Interleaving - Auto
Memory Hole - Disabled

all that means HEEEHOOO! (donkey noise)


Under WIndows
When checking CPU-Z under the Memory tab:
Under timings i am getting: DRAM Frequency - 158.5 MHz
no matter what setting i use under BIOS, under windows it keeps coming up as 158.5MHz...

The strange thing is...with the SAME BIOS settiings and 2GB of DDR333
i am getting the DRAM Frequency @ 203.2MHz...

WHAT am i doing wrong?!?!?!?
I have not even attempted to OC my memory...i am just trying to get it to run at the proper speed 1st....then worry about OC'n it!



Edited by Valllldondo - 6/4/08 at 4:03am
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If your CPU is overclocked, then there's your problem. That means when you set your RAM to DDR333, your overclock is actually overclocking the RAM PAST DDR333, and up to DDR400 (if that makes sense). So what that pretty much tells me is that your HT Clock (FSB Speed), is pretty near 250MHz. Then you limit your RAM to 166MHz (DDR333), and presto...its making DDR400, right?
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off the top of my head...

FSB is set to = 245MHz (ish give or take 3Mhz)
Multi = 11x 2200Mhz

but why would the DDR333 overclock to 200MHz (when i never set it to do that)?
and why are my current DDR400's running at DDR333 speeds when set to DDR400?!?
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Originally Posted by Valllldondo View Post
off the top of my head...

FSB is set to = 245MHz (ish give or take 3Mhz)
Multi = 11x 2200Mhz

but why would the DDR333 overclock to 200MHz?
and why are my current DDR400's running at DDR333 speeds?
1: When you overclock your HT Clock (FSB), it also brings your RAM up. If you left your RAM at 200Mhz (DDR400), and upped your HT Clock to 245, then your RAM would also clock to 245.

Now since your HT Clock is at 245MHz, bringing your RAM down to 166MHz (DDR333), means that at STOCK SPEEDS, your RAM would be at 166 (DDR333). But that's not the case, you're overclocking....so of course your RAM will go up as well.

My RAM is at 214Mhz right now (DDR428). And in my BIOS it says its at 133Mhz (DDR266)...and that happened because I'm overclocking. Bringing my HT Clock up to 333Mhz to hit 3.0GHz on my particular chip, means I have to drop my RAM down to a really low speed.

Does that make sense?

2: Your RAM is currently at 158MHz if I remember correctly. I'm just assuming that this is with an "Auto" set option for your RAM speed. That means that your motherboard is picking the most FAIL SAFE way to run your RAM.

Now, given your HT clock of 245MHz, put your RAM at 166MHz (DDR333), and you'll be fine. What CPUz reports on your memory tab is accurate.
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OK...
so increasing the FSB increases the RAM speed
(but can only be done so far...to make the memory/system run as safely as possible)

SO by going to a FSB of 245(ish) and leaving everything on auto,
expect the Memory Clock @ 200 MHz DDR400
i have gone past what my memory can handle
so by default/safety...
My system is setting itself at DDR333?....
EVEN though its showing the Memory Clock @ 200Mhz DDr400 under BIOS?

So...its a balancing act?
The higher your FSB, the more you run the risk of the system reading your memory at a lower speed?
SO...some where in tthe FSB there is a number that will still OC the PSU & have the ram run at its proper speed?...

if the above was the case when the FSB was set to 245?
should my DDR333 not have been running at 158Mhz on CPUZ (or lower)


With the same OC. with the FSB @ 245...
My DDR333 was running at 200Mhz under CPUZ...
My DDR400 was running ay 158MHz under CPUZ...

i just have it into my head that my NEW memory should be running at the same speed as my OLD memory when OC'n the FSB...

so how can i actualy go about getting my DRAM Frequency to run at 200Mhz under CPUZ...
we talking about OC'n the memory?
or is it just not possible cause of the FSB overclock?
Edited by Valllldondo - 6/4/08 at 4:46am
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I think you're understanding it slowly .

Yes...turn it to DDR333 (166MHz), and that will give you DDR400 (200MHz). That's what you're wanting.....stock memory speed. That will do it .
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I think you're understanding it slowly .

Yes...turn it to DDR333 (166MHz), and that will give you DDR400 (200MHz). That's what you're wanting.....stock memory speed. That will do it .
so set it to the following
Advanced > CPU COnfig
Memory Clock = 166 MHz DDR333 (instead of 200Mhz DDR400)

Is bellow the stuff you have to mess arounf with to OC the memory ever further?...
Would having the Memory Clock @ 200Mhz DDR400 (instead of DDR333) affect the bellow setting when trying to OC?

ie - it would not make a differnce what the bellow settings were set to cause the system was protecting itself from the 245 FSB overclock?

Flexability Option = Enabled
CAS - Auto
TRAS - Auto
TRP - Auto
TRCD - Auto
TRRD - Auto
TRC - Auto
MA Timings - Auto
Burst Length - 4 Beats
Bank Interleaving - Auto
Memory Hole - Disabled


emphasise on the word SLOWLY!!!
Edited by Valllldondo - 6/4/08 at 4:52am
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Those settings are just for timing.

For example. My ballistix are rated for 4.4.4.12

So that is.

CAS 4
TRP 4
TRCD 4
TRAS 12
TRC 24

but on auto it shows in bios at 5.5.5.15.

It mostly depends on the ram you have, and how much it can take. Some ram can overclock and maintain stock timings, while other ram must have loose timings in order to remain stable. Some ram can remain stock on timings but must have a voltage bump in order to maintain stability. When you bump voltage though you increase heat, so you have to ensure proper IC cooling etc etc.
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Ummm

Right...
took the overlclock last night and set everything back to default settings...

BIOS still automatically seeing my ram as DDR333's when the Memory Clock = Auto...
When Memory Clock = DDR400 200Mhz BIOS DOES see them as DDR400's...
BUT
My DRAM Frequency is 133Mhz under CPUZ when logged into windows!!

WHY are my DDR400's running that slow when stock they should be running at 200MHz?!
The fact my old CHEAP DDR333's could run at 200MHz+ without sweat is a bit strange and anoying EVEN with the FSB set to 245+
Edited by Valllldondo - 6/6/08 at 1:01am
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