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Hello everyone, I'm new to this forum and I guess I should introduce myself eh? Names Alex, but online in games such as CoD2 & 4, BF2, CS:S, etc, I'm known as SpyKe. No history behind the name, just created it back in the old original Rainbow Six days. Anyway, I would love to talk about my history, but thats not why I'm here today. I'm here to get some help from you guys on where should I go with my current rig. Trust me, most of you will want to burn it, as do I, but as of right now, its not an option. So lets get with it:

My Rig:
CPU:Socket 754 AMD Athlon 64 3000+ @ 1.8GHZ with Scythe Katana II Heatsink w/120mm Fan
MOBO:ECS K8M800-M2
PSU:Rosewill SLI 550W ATX2.01 (Model just for kicks: RP550V2-D-SL)
RAM/MEMORY:2GB DDR
HDD:150GB Raptor X
VIDEO CARD: Was XFX 6800XT 256MB - AGP
ETC:Creative SB Audigy, NETGEAR Wireless G Card

The Issue!
Now on to the issue at hand. Just today, my video card went out on me. I believe I had this card for over 2 years now, so I knew it was coming. The issue came when I was playing World in Conflict and outta no where artifacts and tearing was all over my screen. I was thinking, "OH-SHI, my video card is dead." Well hoping that it was just a fluke played on me by god himself, I restarted my computer and at POST, I saw tearing. So I knew it was it, but just to make sure it wasn't my mobo, I put in my old Nvidia FX5500 128MB and no tearing at POST. So I called XFX told them my problem, they sent me to create a ticket, and at this moment I am awaiting their response.

The Waiting Game...
So now as I wait, I am looking at video cards to replace this one. The one I would like to buy is the GECUBE RADEON X1950XT. I have done quite a bit of research of this card and the biggest concerns for me are the heat from the card ("...copper piping melting wires"), the drivers, and the size. If someone here could maybe "reassure" me about the heat and/or drivers issues please do! Its not the best thing to see that an amazing card like this has some serious issues. As far as the size goes, the length across the card doesn't worry me. My XFX 6800XT is pretty freaking long, @ 8.5 inches. Its more of the length down the card that issues me. If you have seen my motherboard, its a Micro, with 2 of the 3 PCI slots being used with my soundcard and wireless card. I think I could figure out this problem with the card in hand, but its an issue non the less.

The Solution?
Now that you know my problem with my card, what should I do? Some of the factors that are really pissing me off are my motherboard being a Micro, my processor being at 1.8GHZ with no help of the BIOS being complete crap, and not sure if my PSU is any good. Where should I go with this and where should I start? Please, try to keep the, "Get a new rig" comments to a minimal.

Thanks, I'll look forward to your replies!
    
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Ok, first: What's your budget?

The X1950XT isn't the coolest card on the world, but it can stand the heat easily. I ran an X1900CF with an X1900XT in Crossfire (PCI-E of course), and they topped out at about 78C at max overclock... not too bad for that card. The X1950XT runs a little cooler than the X1900XT...

Those cards are indeed quite large, but then again...which current GPU isn't

How much for that card (AGP version)? The HD 3850 might also be an option:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...k=&srchInDesc=
    
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Thanks for the reply Chozart, I guess you get right to the, "First" post haha. Anyway back on topic, my budget is about $225 for the Video Card. Now reading up on posts and comments on other forums, I am hearing from others that you need a PSU that has at least 30 on a 12 Rail or something. Now I'm not sure if my PSU meets those requirements. Also, I have seen a few times the race car driver and race car analogy. In this I mean the CPU needs be good enough to handle the video card. Again, I'm not sure if I meet this.
    
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If you have a concern, or question, about thermal output issues from a component then a little more information such as your current cooling and chassis would be useful.
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If you have a concern, or question, about thermal output issues from a component then a little more information such as your current cooling and chassis would be useful.
I'm not sure what more I can offer you other than my PSU model and name. If you would like, I could list all the voltage, current, and frequencies off the side of my PSU. As far as the chassis, its a mid-tower by Antec. The framework is... some type of metal... lol. Thats all I have from that. I really wish I could tell you the name of this chassis. Sorry!
Edited by SpyKe - 6/3/08 at 5:00pm
    
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Instead of spending $225 on an AGP video card (outdated tech), I suggest a complete overhaul. For that same $225, and the money you could get for your old stuff (heck, I think you can get $100 for CPU/MoBo/RAM), you can get this (all links from Newegg):
  • BIOSTAR TF560 A2+ AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA nForce 560 MCP ATX AMD Motherboard $79.99
  • XFX PVT96GYDF4 GeForce 9600 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card $139.99
  • AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Brisbane 2.2GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADO4200DOBOX $59.99
  • SUPER TALENT 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model T800UX2GC5 $39.99
Total: $319.96

The 9600GT is a better card than an X1950XT, and runs cooler, demands less power, and ... well, just a better choice. Plus, the dual core X2 4200+ is quite a nice match with that card.

What do you think?

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I can't see the X1950 putting out more heat that couldn't be helped by the addition of a simple fan to the back of the chassis blowing out air if you don't have one already. I used to run a Pentium 4 650 @ 4.0Ghz with a 7950GX2, two G71 GPU's generateing heat, in a small Asus chassis.

Just do your best to tidy your cables to maintain good airflow through the chassis and add an intake and extraction fan to the front and rear. With regards to the PSU, a 550W Rosewill will be fine. Unless you can pick the graphics card up on the cheap I wouldn't justify spending $225 just on a graphics card for your current system. Chozart's example is worth considering if you can stretch your budget.
Edited by t4ct1c47 - 6/3/08 at 5:08pm
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Instead of spending $225 on an AGP video card (outdated tech), I suggest a complete overhaul. For that same $225, and the money you could get for your old stuff (heck, I think you can get $100 for CPU/MoBo/RAM), you can get this (all links from Newegg):
  • BIOSTAR TF560 A2+ AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA nForce 560 MCP ATX AMD Motherboard $79.99
  • XFX PVT96GYDF4 GeForce 9600 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card $139.99
  • AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Brisbane 2.2GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADO4200DOBOX $59.99
  • SUPER TALENT 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model T800UX2GC5 $39.99
Total: $319.96

The 9600GT is a better card than an X1950XT, and runs cooler, demands less power, and ... well, just a better choice. Plus, the dual core X2 4200+ is quite a nice match with that card.

What do you think?

Oh, and welcome to the forum and all that jazz
Wow... Thats sounds a lot better than what I was looking at. I mean, thats really too good to be true...

Grand Total with my zip: $333.43 = Pure Pwnage Price.

As far as reinstalling the OS, I'm running on XP Pro. As far as I know, I'm gonna have to reinstall my XP Pro, then activate it. Most likely its gonna not take my activation so I'll need to call them up, then tell them I changed the motherboard and get my new activation, right?
    
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Wow... Thats sounds a lot better than what I was looking at. I mean, thats really too good to be true...

Grand Total with my zip: $333.43 = Pure Pwnage Price.

As far as reinstalling the OS, I'm running on XP Pro. As far as I know, I'm gonna have to reinstall my XP Pro, then activate it. Most likely its gonna not take my activation so I'll need to call them up, then tell them I changed the motherboard and get my new activation, right?
With XP Pro, it's actually quite likely it'll activate automatically (esp. when you installed it a while ago). otherwise, the phonecall will be easy. Just answer the questions.
    
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Thanks everyone who replied. This really opened a lot more doors! Just one question, I was looking at some of the reviews of the HD 3850 and there seems to be a lot of driver problems with that card. Whats up with that?
    
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