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post #31 of 38
True. I just found the thead incase anybody is looking for some reading although I did mess up one thing. It was an underclocked 3870 with a PCI-E interface that was compared to an AGP 3850 but it's still interesting.

I'm all for PCI-E and PCI-E 2.0 (even though it's a cash grab at this point) because technology needs to advance but there's still a lot of use out there for AGP systems.
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ISA and VESA Local Bus FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Go read that thread that was started about the guy who installed crysis on his P3 computer... That will generally explain the ignorance about people and their reasons (excuses) on why they don't need to upgrade...

People who still defend AGP are the people who havent seen the difference over PCIE...

Like just yesterday, i have a friend who is running an older dell. His video card started failing on him months ago, and refused to get it replaced. Finally he called me and asked if i had anything to replace it. He has one of the first P4 PCIE based systems from Dell, so i told him i had something light years beyond what he was running (ati 9550 or something).

It was like pulling teethe to get $50 out of the guy for a 7600GT installed. He knows jack about computers, other than how to play wow, so that isn't saying a whole lot. Anyways, after dragging his ass and telling me that he feels like throwing money away if he had to spend any money on his computer, i finally got him to buy my card, to get his computer running...

Now he has seen the light. Now he can imagine life outside the world he was living in. Until you get to that point, ether by choice, or forced to it, people will always think that whatever computer they have is just fine.

So hence the reason why AGP is still around. People just don't understand that it really needs to die so peoples efforts can be redirected else where...
X2, I remember 3 years ago when I built my first computer I could not believe the huge difference between my new computer and my old Dell celeron with pci ati 9250. The difference was so huge and for not that much money either.
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post #34 of 38
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Originally Posted by JackMcIntyre View Post
Finally.

People who use AGP are just living in the past and are afraid to upgrade. I think the reason they don't upgrade is that they've got an AGP motherboard with an old socket, and replacing the graphics card would mean replacing the whole computer, not just the graphics card. So, they just buy countless AGP cards which are totally overpriced and are a total waste of money. I bet if you got that Crysis P3 guy to count up how much money he'd wasted on his crap old system it would probably add up to a neat little C2D system with a decent GPU.
Or their like me and have to SCROUNGE money to get a second hand PCIe card from nearly 4 generations ago?

Remember, Not everyone has the money for what could end up being a new motherboard, ram, CPU, PSU, etc, as well as the Graphics card, its taken me ages to get off AGP because I had to buy a motherboard with AGP and PCIe, then a CPU, that set me back AU$200, then the ram which was another AU$100, and now I had to buy a second hand Graphics Card for AU$43.
    
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Originally Posted by Emmanuel View Post
PCI graphic cards are very useful when you BIOS flash other video cards, when you need a spare video card in case one card dies etc...
You have a point my 8800-friend
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post #37 of 38
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I am simply stating that whatever money you get together to upgrade ur system, you are in fact waisting your money. Deal with the hardware you have now, and confine saving ur funds for a meaningful upgrade, later.
If my new AGP card does everything I want it to, how was it a waste of money? You're saying I should wait until I have about $500 or so to spend on a completely new rig otherwise I completely wasted my money?

Your argument is pretty weak. Using this logic, every upgrade is a waste of money. Think about it, you buy a nice mid-high level rig now, and in a year or two it becomes completely inferior. Do you buy a new rig every year? Either way, you're wasting money.
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This is annoying , I know my AGP motherboard is outdated but please stop reminding me , I'll go crazy this way. If you want to keep reminding me then compensate me with an up-to-date system.
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