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I see this hurting Nvidia more then intel, intel is going to sell cpus and chipsets no matter what. This might give amd the help they need to get back on their feet maybe push the graphic cards alot harder and slowly work on their cpus in the background. If when more users upgrade to the new chipset Nvidia loses money on chipsets and a extra video card someone might bought to run sli if it was for a intel chipset or a Nvidia chipset.
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Honestly, what did they expect? The CEO of Nvidia spends several weeks on a hate-campaign bashing Intel, and then when Intel deny's them a license to their hardware (which it has a perfectly legit right to do) Nvidia gets upset? Sorry guys - you can't have it both ways. Before Jen-Hsun Huang decided to declare Intel obsolete, he should have given some thought to how much of his company's profits are directly dependent on them.

This move is not going to kill either company, but they both need to stop tantruming and get back to making hardware.
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Could also be bad for Intel, as they would lose some Nvidia customers if Intel is unable to get a license to use sli.
Not so much for Intel really though. People will want and rightly so the top end CPU's, as many people with older CPU's can attest, they will end up bottlenecking the cards. As the CPU's will get faster and more sophisticated the games will come developed to use them, and Nvidia will lose out because their SLI is only supported on boards that will run what amounts to obsolete technology.

I wish Nvidia would license the technology to Intel, it hasn't hurt AMD/ATI to license Crossfire, if anything it's probably helped them a little. I realize that if Nvidia does this they will probably submarine their own chipset market share, but not having a chipset that supports Nehalem and beyond will submarine your market share anyways. The only way this turns rosy for Nvidia is if they merge with VIA and pray that VIA can put out a CPU that performs well enough to at least be considered competition.
    
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post #14 of 113
nvidia has physx, but wont have sli for nehalem. not looking good for the consumer.
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post #15 of 113
TBH this was done because Nvidia can't shut up and stop talking smack about companies.
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post #16 of 113
I hope Intel l3itch slaps Nvidia back into reality.
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Well, I personally have been planning to jump off the SLI/Nvidia boat anyway in the wake of the new x58 chipsets and the fact that i have rarely even utilized my SLI 8800s due to this "more than 1 monitor" BS i have to jump hoops through. I say, ATI are producing fairly high performance GPUs to "compete" with whatever Nvidia throws and now since nvidia is pretty much screwed on access to arguably the fastest enthusiast CPUs available, that overclockers will turn to Intel/ATI setups. I know i will if this mess isn't settled.
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How will all the fanboys choose between Intel and Nvidia? I think this is silly on intels part. If ATI wasn't owned by AMD, it would be different, but you are essentially handing over all the enthusiast graphics money to a direct competitor. I know intel doesn't make money from nvidia, but they have also been charged with doing quite a bit to stop AMD from making money. I wonder if this is a bluff...
this has been going on for some time here and also if they just let nvidia make their chipsets then they end up handing money for chipsets to a competitor also as nvidia makes chipsets that compete with intels chipsets.
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I would play ball with Intel. They are much much bigger then Nvidia, and the lack of a nvidia chipset wouldn't hurt them in any significant way financially...Nvidia on the other hand..
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Well, I was just thinking that the dual GPU cards could effect this as well. Do we really know how well SLI will sell when nehalem becomes main stream? If the newer dual GPU cards perform like they are supposed to, there may be much less of a marked for 2 seperte cards. the ones who will be going 3 and 4 cards will be slim enough that I don't think it will matter a whole lot.

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this has been going on for some time here and also if they just let nvidia make their chipsets then they end up handing money for chipsets to a competitor also as nvidia makes chipsets that compete with intels chipsets.

True, but I would say that AMD is more of a threat competition wise as they do GFX, chipset and processor. At the same time, if I had to put money on who this hurts more, it would be nvidia. Intel has pockets deep enough to let this slide.
Edited by dralb - 6/4/08 at 2:35pm
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