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I think this is silly on intels part. If ATI wasn't owned by AMD, it would be different, but you are essentially handing over all the enthusiast graphics money to a direct competitor
It may seem silly at first, but perhaps Intel could see Nvidia as more of a threat at the moment than AMD. I mean Intel is getting ready to launch Nehalem in the enthusiast market, and AMD doesn't really have an enthusiast-level CPU to compete with it.

So say someone buys a high-end system with a Nehalem and two Radeons for CF. Intel still sells the CPU, but they also hurt Nvidia because now ATI sold 2 GPU's that otherwise might have been Nvidia's. So yea, AMD gets money out of it, but AMD isn't going out of their way to compete in the high-end market, so Intel wasn't really hurt by it. In fact, they gained because Nvidia got hurt.

Just my 2 cents
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*** this is from the FUD I want a better source before i start believing that.
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What me thinks is that nVidia is going to loose the enthusiast market (which is not very big, but very profit making)
I like that - more powerful mainstream, or more GX2 cards from nVidia.

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*** this is from the FUD I want a better source before i start believing that.
Everybody says FUD & INQ sux, but in most cases they are right. This is my personal experience and you can argue, but... IDK .. I think this is true.
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Not so much for Intel really though. People will want and rightly so the top end CPU's, as many people with older CPU's can attest, they will end up bottlenecking the cards. As the CPU's will get faster and more sophisticated the games will come developed to use them, and Nvidia will lose out because their SLI is only supported on boards that will run what amounts to obsolete technology.

I wish Nvidia would license the technology to Intel, it hasn't hurt AMD/ATI to license Crossfire, if anything it's probably helped them a little. I realize that if Nvidia does this they will probably submarine their own chipset market share, but not having a chipset that supports Nehalem and beyond will submarine your market share anyways. The only way this turns rosy for Nvidia is if they merge with VIA and pray that VIA can put out a CPU that performs well enough to at least be considered competition.
Very true, except for the last part. That won't happen.
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Not so much for Intel really though. People will want and rightly so the top end CPU's, as many people with older CPU's can attest, they will end up bottlenecking the cards. As the CPU's will get faster and more sophisticated the games will come developed to use them, and Nvidia will lose out because their SLI is only supported on boards that will run what amounts to obsolete technology.

I wish Nvidia would license the technology to Intel, it hasn't hurt AMD/ATI to license Crossfire, if anything it's probably helped them a little. I realize that if Nvidia does this they will probably submarine their own chipset market share, but not having a chipset that supports Nehalem and beyond will submarine your market share anyways. The only way this turns rosy for Nvidia is if they merge with VIA and pray that VIA can put out a CPU that performs well enough to at least be considered competition.
As soon as you used the word bottlenecking I couldn't take you seriously any more. The only people that this effects are bench markers and people that are willing to waste money with sli.
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Can we at least put one Nvidia GPU on these intel boards?
Edited by Refresh - 6/4/08 at 2:47pm
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Can we at least put one Nvidia GPU on these intel boards?
Unless Intel does something funky to make them incompatible, single Nvidia cards should work just fine. It only becomes an issue if you want to use SLI. CrossFire will still be supported as far as I know.
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So to have the fasted PC its going to be Intel + ATi Xfire. What a spart move from AMD. They knew something like this will happend so they bought ATi and not end up like Nvidia. Nvidia in the other hand still has SLi for AMD and who know this also has AMD with their CPU so no matter that happes AMD only gains.
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While Intel and Nvidia fight around like little school girls, AMD gets richer and richer.

This can't turn out good for the either of them.
    
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Nvidia does have a choice. If they give this to intel they lose MB manufacturing if they dont and intel gives the licence then nvidia will be no better then its now.
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