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Ouch, pwned. That's really going to kill NVidia chipset sales.
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Would really want to see the outcome of this.

Also.. how big is chance that Intel buys AMD/ATI ? So Intel has their paw in GPU market too.
Intel cannot legally purchase AMD. Monopoly = illegal.
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There are a lot of great points in this thread.

Keep this in mind though - what percentage of computer users incorporate SLI? Relatively few. Very few. Think of it this way. Compared to 'mainstream' and even onboard GFX (IGP's), the 'enthusiast' or 'gaming' market is relatively small. And the amount of people who use dual cards (including SLI) is a small percentage of that percentage.

Although now that I think about it, if nVidia can't sell their IGP's on Intel CPU socket motherboards, this could hurt them. I believe that could be their biggest problem.
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There are a lot of great points in this thread.

Keep this in mind though - what percentage of computer users incorporate SLI? Relatively few. Very few. Think of it this way. Compared to 'mainstream' and even onboard GFX (IGP's), the 'enthusiast' or 'gaming' market is relatively small. And the amount of people who use dual cards (including SLI) is a small percentage of that percentage.
And that small percentage is only going to get smaller as they start coming out with nicely performing dual GFX/single PCB solutions. I think multiple card solutions are a gimmick and are not meant to stay. Considering there is really only one game that justifies them, I don't see it becoming more mainstream until the software catches up. And even then, the game makers are smart enough to make it for the masses and not the uber high end.
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And that small percentage is only going to get smaller as they start coming out with nicely performing dual GFX/single PCB solutions. I think multiple card solutions are a gimmick and are not meant to stay. Considering there is really only one game that justifies them, I don't see it becoming more mainstream until the software catches up. And even then, the game makers are smart enough to make it for the masses and not the uber high end.
If you think that only one game justifies a dual GPU solution, then you clearly haven't played any games at 1920x1XXX and up resolutions.
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If you think that only one game justifies a dual GPU solution, then you clearly haven't played any games at 1920x1XXX and up resolutions.
True and true. I have not played anything higher than 1680*1050. However, what percentage of people game at those resolutions? I suppose I should have put "in most cases" in my original post. Also, do the games that justify 2 seperate cards not run well at those resolutions with a single, dual GPU card? I understand that there will always be the few people out there that have monster LCD's to game on, but that doesn't mean there is a market for dual GFX cards. Using that as justification of SLI/X-Fire is as silly as building a PC just to max out Crysis.


Basically, what I am trying to say is that, as soon as something needs more than one card (or more than 2 GPU's) the next generation of GFX cards are out and make them obsolete. I know there is always room for more and what is needed is not what we are about (enthusiasts), but it always seemed to be overkill to me. I suppose if I have a larger monitor, I may feel differently.






edit: Also, I would like to point out that I consider dual GPUs and SLI/X-Fire 2 different things. If they can get 2 GPU's on one card, that changes the whole argument. My biggest point against SLI etc. is the fact that the chipset and mobo (and, sometimes PSU) are different. When you have a single slot, but can run dual GPU's, whats the point of needing all the extra hardware for SLI? If they were still producing single GPU cards, I would think differently. Once they gave you the performance of 2 on the format of one, it killed the market.
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post #67 of 113
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wow if that actually happens, it could be terrible for NVidia.
Looks to me like Intel wants nVidia gone. Even if it helps AMD's GPU sales. If you can't combine Nahalem and SLI... nVidia might lose a whole lot of marketshare fast. Of course maybe they will work on making cooler cards and simply use multi-chip cards more to compensate.
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Sounds to me as if Intel is setting themselves up for another lawsuit. The dominant chip maker, shares tech with a rival then not you. Knowing this will cause serious harm. If it acts like a monopoly . . . it can be regulated like one.
    
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Sounds to me as if Intel is setting themselves up for another lawsuit. The dominant chip maker, shares tech with a rival then not you. Knowing this will cause serious harm. If it acts like a monopoly . . . it can be regulated like one.
Would be interesting to see AMD and nVidia both suing Intel out of the sky.
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Like Chipp said - it's no suprise. nVidia bashes Intel to the point of saying they are obsolete and worthless.

Intel sells their processors and their motherboards - this will NOT hurt Intell in any way at all. And they know it. Plus Crossfire. ATI might be slacking lately, but this can easily change on a whim as it has before. ATI has been king in the past a lot of times.

ATI's hardware is excellent, it's drivers that are hurting them, this has been the case since AMD bought them. The other thing that makes me upset is the fact ATI has no more BBA products.
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