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Get this - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131052
Its £4 more and worth every penny extra. In fact its nearer a 550w PSU compared to the way cheap PSUs are labelled.
post #12 of 36
Coolermaster are bad. Antec aren't great. Apparently their Earthwatts line is ok. Seasonic i believe do relatively cheap psus for what they do. They're one of the best manufacturers too.

Desertmonk heres something i think you should consider... In the other thread you were willing to spend whats likely to be at least £100+ on a 8800GT, and at least £300+ on a 280GTX. Wouldn't you want that same level of quality powering them?
Edited by voice - 6/4/08 at 2:57pm
post #13 of 36
You are not going to get a PSU for £40 that can power an OC'ed Q6600 and a gtx260. Both of those things are power hungry, I would recommend at least a good 600W PSU. The lower watt OCZs aren't bad, but a 500W StealthXstream is not going to power an OC'ed q6600 and a gtx260. As Chozart said the Hiper and the Gigabyte are older designs, so expect poor efficiency and low 12V power ratings.

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QFT.Also are OCZ still a crap manufacturer? I would have figured now being owned by PC Power and Cooling their quality would have improved somewhat.
Depends what model. The EliteXstreams are amazing but the Game/Stealth/ModXstreams aren't the best because of the ripple problem at high loads (with the 1010W version being complete junk). And even though OCZ now owns PC P&C, they are still distinct companies using different OEMs to supply their PSUs and as of yet, neither company have affected each others PSU decisions.

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Coolermaster are bad. Antec aren't great. Apparently their Earthwatts line is ok. Seasonic i believe do relatively cheap psus for what they do. They're one of the best manufacturers too.
Cooler Masters aren't bad. Sure they make low end stuff, but their Acbel made stuff (eXtreme Power Plus, lower watt Real Power Pro, iGreen) is at least decent to pretty good depending on the model. And their Enhance made stuff, 850W and 1000W RPP are some of the best. Antec aren't the best but typically use good manufacturers (Seasonic) but then skimp a little on parts. Still, they make above average PSUs and are usually a good deal.
Edited by shinji2k - 6/4/08 at 3:15pm
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Depends what model. The EliteXstreams are amazing but the Game/Stealth/ModXstreams aren't the best because of the ripple problem at high loads (with the 1010W version being complete junk). And even though OCZ now owns PC P&C, they are still distinct companies using different OEMs to supply their PSUs and as of yet, neither company have affected each others PSU decisions.

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Cooler Masters aren't bad. Sure they make low end stuff, but their Acbel made stuff (eXtreme Power Plus, lower watt Real Power Pro, iGreen) is at least decent to pretty good depending on the model. And their Enhance made stuff, 850W and 1000W RPP are some of the best. Antec aren't the best but typically use good manufacturers (Seasonic) but then skimp a little on parts. Still, they make above average PSUs and are usually a good deal.
Thanks for correcting me. +REP
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Thanks for correcting me. +REP
It's ok. Companies like Thermaltake, Cooler Master and Ultra have gotten bad reputations over the years for some of the cheap PSUs they have sold. Yes, they all still make some PSUs not worth buying but they also sell some nice PSUs at the same time. For me it's ok to call these companies bad, since they don't help their image by selling PSUs that just don't cut it, but if you do your research you can find that they also sell quite a few that are good.

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And about the OCZ/PC P&C thing. It's not that I think they never will work together on a project, but right now they both are playing their own game and don't really need help. PC Power made it's name with the Turbo-Cools, marketing to the ultra high-end. They also had their "budget" Silencers and had some fun with their marketing BS to promote the Silencers and why other PSUs were flawed. It was mostly just hot-air, but it still sold PSUs and got people to pay the for the Silencers over the competition (the Silencers are good but not perfect). OCZ on the other hand built it's name on the budget gamer market. They built PSUs as cheap as possible that were just good enough and priced well and marketed the crap out of them and then sold them like crazy. They also know how to make really nice PSUs when they try like the Evo/ProXStream and EliteXstreams. So they both know what they are doing and don't really need each other ATM. But who knows what they will do in the future.
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Ok we'll make a chart

Corsair: Good
PC Power and cooling: Good
Antec: Relatively good
OCZ: Bad
Thermaltake: Bad
Seasonic: Good
Xigmatek: Good
Most of the rest: Bad
    
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Ok we'll make a chart

Corsair: Good
PC Power and cooling: Good
Antec: Relatively good
OCZ: Bad
Thermaltake: Bad
Seasonic: Good
Xigmatek: Good
Most of the rest: Bad
Silverstone?
Cooler Master?
FSP?
Gigabyte Odin?
Zalman?
BFG?
Ultra X3?
etc...
Your list is missing some stuff.

You can't just label a company like OCZ or Thermaltake bad. At certain points they have some of the best PSUs available. OCZ makes perfectly fine PSUs and Thermaltake also makes quite a few good PSUs (mostly their CWT based stuff like the Toughpower, TR2, some of the Purepowers, Purepower RX).

PC P&C can make a dud sometimes (like the Turbo-Cool 850 with it's horrible rail layout).
Antec made the mistake using Fuhjyyu caps in some of their older stuff, ruined their reputation for a while.
Xigmatek- stay away from the 850W, platform is overstretched (too much ripple)
These are just some of the examples of good PSU companies getting it wrong and why you shouldn't disregard "bad" companies.
Edited by shinji2k - 6/4/08 at 7:07pm
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Note that many companies (Antec, OCZ, PC Power & Cooling, Silverstone, Corsair, and the list goes on) don't even MAKE their own PSUs. They use OEM manufacturers to build the PSUs (like FSP, Seasonic, Channel Well, Enhance, etc). Given that brands sometimes use different OEMs, the quality can vary within a brand... heck, even within a product line (older Antec Earthwatts are Seasonic units, while newer are from... well, I forgot. The older ones are quite good, while on the newer ones the jury is still out, but things seem to indicate that they're not as good as the older ones).

It's important to know which platform is used. For example, many of the current OCZ units (as mentioned before) are based on an FSP platform that suffers from high ripple on the 12V rails at high loads.

Also, the brands do put requirements on the OEM builders. PC P&C for example is very strict in their demands, and dictates Seasonic how to build their PSUs for them.

Having all that said, in my opinion, Corsair delivers the best bang for the buck at this moment. Their Seasonic based units (HX520, HX620) and Channel Well units (VX and TX series) are excellent and very reasonably priced.
    
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post #19 of 36
I'm sorry for kind of going off topic, I like talking about PSUs . I think I said it earlier but don't skimp on the PSU. I don't know comparable UK prices but with a q6600 and gtx280 system you are going to be spending a nice sum of money on the hardware and you want to buy the cheapest PSU possible? Please raise your budget for something like a Corsair TX650.
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if thats euro thats 20 us
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