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can someone explain this please?
The new AMD Southbridges increase overclocking potential for K10 CPU. (Actually its a technical Northbridge too since they are, on an AMD system, integrated into a single chip.) And because of this AMD can reach higher stable speeds so when you have a SB (standing for south bridge) 700 or 750 you will get an automatic overclock. 200mhz for the SB700 and 400mhz for the SB750. This means a Phenom 9850 normally 2.8ghz would be 3ghz on a SB700 based motherboard and 3.2ghz on a SB750 based motherboard. Totally free and automatic thanks to 3 extra pins on AM2+.
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post #32 of 64
Unless this lets you clock higher, to say 3.6+GHz on the 9850 this seems very very pointless.
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post #33 of 64
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Unless this lets you clock higher, to say 3.6+GHz on the 9850 this seems very very pointless.
I guess you didn't bother to read anything, and just decided to post ignorantly. It's supposed to increase OC'ing ability around 400mhz. Seeing as how some 9850's can hit 3.2Ghz, this could very well give them 3.6Ghz.

Your post is very very pointless.
    
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post #34 of 64
Sweet.

Glad AMD is keeping the innovation up...
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K10 doesn't scale very well to higher clockspeeds efficiently ATM. This is a combination of the manufacturing process and the architecture. I don't see how a SB is going to magically change that... Guess I'll have to wait and see....
    
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K10 doesn't scale very well to higher clockspeeds efficiently ATM. This is a combination of the manufacturing process and the architecture. I don't see how a SB is going to magically change that... Guess I'll have to wait and see....
May be better with the next gen architecture with benefits to current CPU's.
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post #37 of 64
I don't know where you guys are getting these high speeds. The article (if what it claims is even real) specifically says that "upcoming BE 2.8GHz" CPUs will be able to run at 3GHz and 3.2GHz when paired with the right board. For all we know, only these "upcoming BE 2.8GHz CPUs" will be able to do this when paired with the new boards. However, we can be optimistic and assume that these proportional speed increase will also work for older BE chips. We can also assume that these increases are in addition to the stock speeds of the chips. The article does not mention overclocking anywhere, so if you think if you clock your BE to 3.2GHz that a SB750 mobo will boost your speeds to 3.6GHz, you're wrong (as far as this article says).
All this is is likely a simple multiplier change coupled with slight voltage increases for stability. It is even more likely that the "upcoming" CPUs will be the only ones to be guaranteed to work with this.
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post #38 of 64
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The article does not mention overclocking anywhere, so if you think if you clock your BE to 3.2GHz that a SB750 mobo will boost your speeds to 3.6GHz, you're wrong (as far as this article says).

Yes it does

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The actual overclocking is done either through the BIOS, a utility, or simply by pressing a physical button on certain motherboards. The release date of this technology is unknown, but we know that it will be available in time for the 790GX launch.
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Yes it does

You know what I mean. User induced overclocking. This is more of an automatic overclock, kinda like the "Turbo" button on the old Dells. The article does not go into specifics, so it's silly to assume that this will allow you to clock a quad to +3.6GHz. The article only mentions 200MHz and 400MHz increases for the yet unnamed 2.8GHz part when paired with the right board. The only other assumption that would be safe to make is a similar increase to current BE chips.
Edited by Melcar - 6/6/08 at 10:06am
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post #40 of 64
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I guess you didn't bother to read anything, and just decided to post ignorantly. It's supposed to increase OC'ing ability around 400mhz. Seeing as how some 9850's can hit 3.2Ghz, this could very well give them 3.6Ghz.

Your post is very very pointless.
I will care to inform you that I know what they are trying to say, but I wholeheartedly disagree. K10 is just not going to scale that high. Maybe if they pump some serious voltage and dissipate some insane heat they will, but not under normal operating conditions. This is nothing but a useless marketing gimmick. They better direct their energy to getting those 45nm processors out FAST instead of wasting their time on "Turbo" buttons. My freaking Pentium 150 from 14 years ago had this too. It made it run at Pentium 166 speed. Insane eh

Investing in this is throwing your money away. You are better off making a charitable donation in the amount that you would spend on this. At least some money will go somewhere useful.

I love AMD, and I will hold out to upgrade until they release something good, but feeding this crap to people is very unprofessional of them. My opinion at least.
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