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It's pretty obvious that a dual core cpu would beat a single. The same can be said for a dual gpu card in some cases, including this one. And aside from some issues that a few games have with multi-gpu setups, what does it really matter? If the 4870X2 is faster, it's faster.

/Galidan
well... theres single core pride

but then again, Nvidia's single core is as power comsuming as 2 of ATI's cards. (2900XT also but thats all stuff )

so it breaks even.
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your thinking of the quadro right? FX series could be also called the 5 series.

the only gpus i ever owned : 9600SE, 6600GT, 3850, but soon to be 4870
Yeah that it is.

BFG Geforce 6800 GS OC, XFX Geforce 7900 GT, Sapphire HD 3870 here. Never going back to nVidia after the difference in how well this card works (meaning buggyness of drivers on nVidia's side.)
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well... theres single core pride
I guess I'll give the GTX 280 points for its can-do attitude.

/Galidan
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....meaning buggyness of drivers on nVidia's side...
Since when nVidia's drivers are buggy? nVidia drivers where always superior to ATI, not to mention that quite a while ago ATI copied nVidia's 1 driver for all cards design and made their first Catalyst, before that ATI's drivers where just horrible.

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It's pretty obvious that a dual core cpu would beat a single. The same can be said for a dual gpu card in some cases, including this one...
It doesn't work like that, so don't even try to compare CPUs and GPUs. To say roughly, for example, G80 is 128 core GPU. GPU's are much more parallel processing oriented than CPUs (probably) will ever be. So adding a second GPU never results in a 100% additional performance, since there are problems with making 2 GPUs work together, plus software should be designed to take advantage of 2 GPUs, with single GPU any given software will take advantage of 100% GPUs horsepower.
Edited by Nowyn - 6/8/08 at 4:11am
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Since when nVidia's drivers are buggy? nVidia drivers where always superior to ATI, not to mention that quite a while ago ATI copied nVidia's 1 driver for all cards design and made their first Catalyst, before that ATI's drivers where just horrible.
Say nVidia's drivers are less buggy than ATI's after using Vista drivers.


I DARE YOU.
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I'm a fair bit skeptical, doesn't ATI always beat nVidia in 3Dmark?

Although that is a higher amount than usual.
no.

let's look back
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Since when nVidia's drivers are buggy? nVidia drivers where always superior to ATI, not to mention that quite a while ago ATI copied nVidia's 1 driver for all cards design and made their first Catalyst, before that ATI's drivers where just horrible.



It doesn't work like that, so don't even try to compare CPUs and GPUs. To say roughly, for example, G80 is 128 core GPU. GPU's are much more parallel processing oriented than CPUs (probably) will ever be. So adding a second GPU never results in a 100% additional performance, since there are problems with making 2 GPUs work together, plus software should be designed to take advantage of 2 GPUs, with single GPU any given software will take advantage of 100% GPUs horsepower.
I really wish you would stop posting man. You clearly haven't been on the computer "Scene" for very long.
ATI drivers are ALWAYS more stable than nvidia ones... hell, nvidia drivers are responsible for more windows vista crashed than all other sources combined

And really, enough with this babble about 2 gpus never being able to scale well because games are coded for parallelism.

The fact that GPUs are Parallel Processing oriented makes them BETTER at scaling, not worse man, and the fact that they do parallel work easily is the reason that multi-die GPUs will eventually take over.
It's crazy hard to take a programs CPU instructions and split them onto multiple threads, which is why you dont see nearly ANY games scaling to even 4 cpu cores.. Games can go from anywhere from 2 to 320 (so far) GPU processing cores with no problems whatsoever.

So really, enough with this "OMG! 1 GPU is better!!!1!" nonsense.
Edited by HugeDink - 6/8/08 at 3:33pm
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Since when nVidia's drivers are buggy? nVidia drivers where always superior to ATI, not to mention that quite a while ago ATI copied nVidia's 1 driver for all cards design and made their first Catalyst, before that ATI's drivers where just horrible.



It doesn't work like that, so don't even try to compare CPUs and GPUs. To say roughly, for example, G80 is 128 core GPU. GPU's are much more parallel processing oriented than CPUs (probably) will ever be. So adding a second GPU never results in a 100% additional performance, since there are problems with making 2 GPUs work together, plus software should be designed to take advantage of 2 GPUs, with single GPU any given software will take advantage of 100% GPUs horsepower.
The G80 doesn't have 128 cores, it has 16 cores and 8 ALUs (shaders) for each core. If you count shaders as cores a C2Q is a '32-core' CPU.
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post #100 of 130
I don't care if this is correct anyway....

The GTX280 is single GPU.... Not 2 GPU's doing an unimpressive job compared to 1.
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