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post #21 of 30
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Thanks for the link Refresh, I've followed it down and I need your help or the help of anyone experienced enough to answer the following.

I've followed the flow chart down and ruled out the video card, (based on this and other tests I've done. It's definetly not the gfx card.)

I'm on the last part of the flowchart related to motherboard failure. Try another cpu.

Now here's the question, with my phenom in the socket it will not post at all. There are no error beeps. All fans are spinning. There is no graphics output.

When I boot with no cpu installed I get the same. No beeps, no warnings, all fans spinning. No graphics.

Is this indicative of motherboard failure? Or will an athlo x2 for example work?

I ask becasue I have no other cpu and will have to buy one...
Edited by waynex - 6/7/08 at 6:31am
post #22 of 30
Thread Starter 
Having located the version of my bios, with the help of StormHawkAPS. It's version 0603.
This may be the problem, Phenoms are not supported with this bios. I would have thought it would be fine.

This maybe the root of my problem. I don't have any other cpu's to try sadly so I'm on the edge of buying a cheapo athlon that runs on an earlier bios rev.
post #23 of 30
99% sure its the mobo
post #24 of 30
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I'm inclined to agree with you. I just need to squeeze out that extra 0.99% of confidence before I send it back.

I have a horrible feeling I'm in for an awful time of waiting, arguing with customer service people etc.

The reason I've gone back to the cpu thing is I've seen a few posts with people with this cpu. They're symptoms are the same as mine. They're solution was a bios update. Somehow this worked for them, although this could be withful thinking on my part

They had sent motherboards back and cpu's back only to find that the bios revision was causing the computer not to post on boot, a simple bios update to a version that supported the 9850BE fixed the problem. I've seen two instances where this was the case so far.

What do you think?
Edited by waynex - 6/7/08 at 8:42am
post #25 of 30
Buy a really cheapo athlon and try. Even if you do find out it's the motherboard, i like to keep spare parts to troubleshoot in the future.

If you maybe go to wanted, someone might have an old AMD they are willing to send free to you if you say why.
post #26 of 30
Asus probably sent a used board that has been RMAd already. I've heard they let the consumer throw it away for them. I would run, at full speed as far away from ASUS as possible. Or try tech support , they'll convince you.

Regardless what is wrong with the board, I think this is the root of your problem.
post #27 of 30
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I have a friend coming down with a gigabyte 790fx later this week. He's going to let me try his board, with this cpu. I also got my hands on an earlier ath64x2, also arriving later in the week. I agree with alex98uk about having a few spare parts, which I have none, only old intel chips.

Fingers crossed all goes well!

Thanks for everyones help so far!

I'll post back how things go, and what the cause of the problem is when I find out (which hopefully I will).
post #28 of 30
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So the good news is it is up and running.

The problem after all this was that the bios revision on the motherboard was the 0603 rev. Phenoms are not supported by this rev. Because of this I could not get any graphics on boot up.

So I got a lend of an athlon 6000+ to test, and everything worked fine. I got graphics on the first boot. It posted and everything is functional.

I tried the 9850 again and it didn't post.

So, I went back to the 6000+ and flashed the bios, (remember with the 9850 I couldn't even get to the bios) and et voila, the phenom now worked. The bios revision I used was the 1002 rev.

It was fairly weird, surely you would see something when you boot up, even if your bios doesn't support your particular processor?

At the moment it's running fine, but the temps are fairly high. 48 deg celcius on the stock cooler at idle.
I'm going to reseat it tomorrow and see what happens.

I'd like to hear any input on the cause of my little problem, have any of you had a similar problem/cause?
post #29 of 30
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So the good news is it is up and running.

The problem after all this was that the bios revision on the motherboard was the 0603 rev. Phenoms are not supported by this rev. Because of this I could not get any graphics on boot up.

So I got a lend of an athlon 6000+ to test, and everything worked fine. I got graphics on the first boot. It posted and everything is functional.

I tried the 9850 again and it didn't post.

So, I went back to the 6000+ and flashed the bios, (remember with the 9850 I couldn't even get to the bios) and et voila, the phenom now worked. The bios revision I used was the 1002 rev.

It was fairly weird, surely you would see something when you boot up, even if your bios doesn't support your particular processor?

At the moment it's running fine, but the temps are fairly high. 48 deg celcius on the stock cooler at idle.
I'm going to reseat it tomorrow and see what happens.

I'd like to hear any input on the cause of my little problem, have any of you had a similar problem/cause?

I have the same problem when I built my PC a few weeks ago, I don't know what I did but I just replugged all the wires together and eventually my computer posted. I have the same MOBO has you and was on, i believe 802 firm.
post #30 of 30
That's strange because that seems to be the most popular MB for this chip. I/m curious if that is the same BIOS used on the M3A-H/HDMI that I returned. the 9850 worked out of the box in it, and also with the 0603.

I would be pretty stupid to not support the newest proccessor for the platform of motherboard they are making. Especially when that is basically the enthusuiast model.

If you can, RMA it and get a DFI. You'll have a good board for this chip and $85 more.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136044
Edited by OpticWaves - 6/13/08 at 10:20am
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