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Originally Posted by FearMeansControl View Post
Is there a reason he used a "wunderground" weather feed?

I'd point a lot to how unprofessional the work in question is.. (go from the home page to another section and the background changes (not a problem) and is tiled incorrectly (problem)

little things like that add a lot to a site, and while things like that don't make a case, it says that he lacked the attention to detail to worry about the customer, its not hard to connect the dots that he also lacked the interest in seeing if his actions were legal.. rather HIS CLIENT had to go out of his way, causing him lost time and money to find out information that he should not even need to think about. I assume the vendor was paid for a complete website, IMO its not a complete product if CC can potentially come after you
Yeah, the site is really crappy. I noticed that right from the beginning. It was paid in full already (a very large sum of money). I dont know the programmer. But Im working with the company to make them a short term site since they need the advertising.
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Yeah, the site is really crappy. I noticed that right from the beginning. It was paid in full already (a very large sum of money). I dont know the programmer. But Im working with the company to make them a short term site since they need the advertising.
Good Luck

(About two years ago, we had some dud of a guy code an ASP backend that not only didnt talk to the database correctly, but every single link in the project was incorrect.. what a disaster) /Off-Topic
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Good Luck

(About two years ago, we had some dud of a guy code an ASP backend that not only didnt talk to the database correctly, but every single link in the project was incorrect.. what a disaster) /Off-Topic
That sucks.
Here is the current plan:
1. Threaten to report him to CC. Make him refund 100% of the cost.
2. Report him to CC even if he pays.
3. Code new website.
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When I undertake website development I often show the client a mock up of the site made with publisher, or frontpage. This gives them a rough idea of how the site will look and function. If your friends aren't happy with the site that has been developed then they should by all means request that the developer change the website accordingly. If possible they should explain how they want the site to function.

With regards to their attempt at trying to avoid paying the developer for the work undertaken just because a template was taken under Creative Commons, that's just outright lame. Creative Commons is not the same as full copyright and the developer is perfectly fine using a template as it is their time for developing the site that they are being paid for, not the template! If the developer was selling the template code directly online then he would be in breach of the lisence, but they aren't in this case.
Edited by t4ct1c47 - 6/6/08 at 7:48pm
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Find a good lawyer. There's always a way to screw someone who does work this badly.

Chances are that this company isn't the first one he's done it with either, so if you can find some history on him you may get even more leverage.
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When I undertake website development I often show the client a mock up of the site made with publisher, or frontpage. This gives them a rough idea of how the site will look and function. If your friends aren't happy with the site that has been developed then they should by all means request that the developer change the website accordingly. If possible they should explain how they want the site to function.

With regards to their attempt at trying to avoid paying the developer for the work undertaken just because a template was taken under Creative Commons, that's just outright lame. Creative Commons is not the same as full copyright and the developer is perfectly fine using a template as it is their time for developing the site that they are being paid for, not the template! If the developer was selling the template code directly online then he would be in breach of the lisence, but they aren't in this case.
Also, the site is very poorly written.

Take a look at this.
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Noncommercial. You may not use this work for commercial purposes.
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Originally Posted by Manyak View Post
Find a good lawyer. There's always a way to screw someone who does work this badly.

Chances are that this company isn't the first one he's done it with either, so if you can find some history on him you may get even more leverage.
Not a bad idea. I will try to find the history.
Edited by mortimersnerd - 6/6/08 at 8:00pm
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I was thinking about this thread this morning and remembered I never saw the attribution for the original author.

Code:
<!--
Copyright: Darren Hester 2006, http://www.designsbydarren.com
License: Released Under the "Creative Commons License", 
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/
-->
He's not anywhere on the webpage.. If the commercial bit is a bit of a grey area violation, this is a textbook violation
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I was thinking about this thread this morning and remembered I never saw the attribution for the original author.

Code:
<!--
Copyright: Darren Hester 2006, http://www.designsbydarren.com
License: Released Under the "Creative Commons License", 
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/
-->
He's not anywhere on the webpage.. If the commercial bit is a bit of a grey area violation, this is a textbook violation
Yeah, I just realized that. Thanks. This is what it says at the bottom:
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Copyright © 2008 Hiwassee Angler. Website by H3 Webdesign
This is now a good claim against him since he used attribution-noncommercial for money, did not link back to the site, and claimed it as his own. I'm going to have some fun when it comes Monday.
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It's unethical at least illegal at worst. I wouldn't do it.
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It's unethical at least illegal at worst. I wouldn't do it.
The main reason Im going after this guy is because he charges $1500 to build the site with 1 year of support.
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