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His old HP is finally starting to bother him (I don't know how he's lived with it so long). He needs a computer for general use. General use meaning: Music, movies, internet, and instant messaging. No games.

Here are the requirements:

1. Must be Intel. I'm thinking E1200 since I fell in love with mine.
2. The Mobo must overclock at least a little, 2.6+ would be ideal if I got the E1200.
3. Hard drive space must be quite a bit. 250 gigs should work. He has another 300 gig drive.
4. Video...I have no idea. He does not play any games. Maybe Integrated on the mobo? I don't really know of any motherboards that overclock OK and have integrated video.
5. Case can't be completely butt ugly.
6. Needs a monitor. 19" preferably.


Lets see the builds. I'm thinking about 300 with no monitor would be good, lower if possible. So let's set the budget at 300.

If that budget with Intel is absolutely impossible. I'll consider AMD.
Edited by Retrospekt - 6/7/08 at 12:27pm
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post #2 of 30
Oh jeese man. For 300 thats a tight one. Do-able, but tight with Intel.
Remember, they're the "Best".

I guess.

Phhh.
    
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Intel is not the best. Please refrain from unfounded fanboy comments. Thanks.


My suggestion (even though a little over, but I don't recommend anything less - all from Newegg):
  • Rosewill R6425-P BK Black SGCC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $23.99
  • GIGABYTE GA-P35-S3G LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $74.99
  • SAPPHIRE 1001 Radeon X1550 512MB (128MB on board) 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card - OEM $19.99
  • Antec Basiq BP-350B 350W ATX12V Version 2.01 Power Supply - OEM $19.99
  • Intel Celeron E1200 1.6GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80557E1200 - Retail $49.99
  • SUPER TALENT 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model T800UX2GC5 - Retail $37.99
  • Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500AAKS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $59.99
  • LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model iHAS120-04 - OEM $23.99
  • ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail $26.99
Total: $337.91

Save about $20 with:
Foxconn A6VMX AM2+/AM2 AMD 690V ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $54.99
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Brisbane 2.2GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADO42000IAA5DO - OEM $47.99

I think the AMD solution is the winner here!
Edited by Chozart - 6/7/08 at 12:37pm
    
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I say this - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...=E145-2026%20H.

Though I worry about the power supply.

Edit: I pick Chozart's over mine .
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post #5 of 30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chozart View Post
Intel is not the best. Please refrain from unfounded fanboy comments. Thanks.


My suggestion (even though a little over, but I don't recommend anything less - all from Newegg):
  • Rosewill R6425-P BK Black SGCC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $23.99
  • GIGABYTE GA-P35-S3G LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $74.99
  • SAPPHIRE 1001 Radeon X1550 512MB (128MB on board) 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card - OEM $19.99
  • Antec Basiq BP-350B 350W ATX12V Version 2.01 Power Supply - OEM $19.99
  • Intel Celeron E1200 1.6GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80557E1200 - Retail $49.99
  • SUPER TALENT 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model T800UX2GC5 - Retail $37.99
  • Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500AAKS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $59.99
  • LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model iHAS120-04 - OEM $23.99
  • ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail $26.99
Total: $337.91
That looks awesome, but now I'm interested in AMD. I been with Intel all my life and it just seemed so easy. How much would I save going AMD, and how much performance would I lose/gain?

Well Chozart just added an AMD option, and that looks like a winner. Any objections?
Edited by Retrospekt - 6/7/08 at 12:39pm
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post #6 of 30
see edit in previous post

You'd save a bit money, and actually have better performance.

Oh, don't forget to replace the cooler Silly me

thus, this is the AMD build:
  • Rosewill R6425-P BK Black SGCC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $23.99
  • Foxconn A6VMX AM2+/AM2 AMD 690V ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $54.99
  • SAPPHIRE 1001 Radeon X1550 512MB (128MB on board) 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card - OEM $19.99
  • Antec Basiq BP-350B 350W ATX12V Version 2.01 Power Supply - OEM $19.99
  • AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Brisbane 2.2GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADO42000IAA5DO - OEM $47.99
  • SUPER TALENT 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model T800UX2GC5 - Retail $37.99
  • Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500AAKS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $59.99
  • LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model iHAS120-04 - OEM $23.99
  • ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail $19.99
Subtotal: $308.91
    
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post #7 of 30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chozart View Post
see edit in previous post

You'd save a bit money, and actually have better performance.

Oh, don't forget to replace the cooler Silly me

thus, this is the AMD build:
  • Rosewill R6425-P BK Black SGCC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $23.99
  • Foxconn A6VMX AM2+/AM2 AMD 690V ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $54.99
  • SAPPHIRE 1001 Radeon X1550 512MB (128MB on board) 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card - OEM $19.99
  • Antec Basiq BP-350B 350W ATX12V Version 2.01 Power Supply - OEM $19.99
  • AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Brisbane 2.2GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADO42000IAA5DO - OEM $47.99
  • SUPER TALENT 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model T800UX2GC5 - Retail $37.99
  • Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500AAKS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $59.99
  • LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model iHAS120-04 - OEM $23.99
  • ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail $19.99
Subtotal: $308.91
The power supply worries me a bit. Should I spend a bit more and get a better one? I.E, a nice Rosewill with 29A?

With the power supply upgraded to a 29A Rosewill, Chozart's build would cost be 319 bucks.
Edited by Retrospekt - 6/7/08 at 12:46pm
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ugh... nice and rosewill in one sentence? (just kidding). Personally, I'd pick the Antec over the Rosewill. I mean, what kind of power draw do you expect from this rig?

Picking a Rosewill is tricky. There are some very good units (the 500W Stallion for example), but there are totally crap units also. The Basiq line of Antec isn't half bad

How about this FSP unit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104901

25A on dual 12V rails. More than plenty
    
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post #9 of 30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chozart View Post
ugh... nice and rosewill in one sentence? (just kidding). Personally, I'd pick the Antec over the Rosewill. I mean, what kind of power draw do you expect from this rig?

Picking a Rosewill is tricky. There are some very good units (the 500W Stallion for example), but there are totally crap units also. The Basiq line of Antec isn't half bad

How about this FSP unit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104901

25A on dual 12V rails. More than plenty
I actually have that unit in the HP he has, and it works awesome.

So here is the build:

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/P...istTitle=Tomek

316 bucks, 346 shipped.

I'll probably end up buying a power supply used, and maybe an AMD processor used if I can find one on here.
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Newegg.com - Intel Pentium E2160 Allendale 1.8GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - CPUs / Processors
$68

Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-945GCM-S2C LGA 775 Intel 945GC Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards
$49

Newegg.com - SUPER TALENT 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory
$38

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104951
$25

Total for above comes to: $180
Then add in GPU/HDD/Case/Drive of choice. Or you could use the old HDD/DVD drive.
Edited by KarmaKiller - 6/7/08 at 12:55pm
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