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For work, I travel quite frequently, most being international trips so perhaps I can shed some perspective on this whole issue.

First, I smoke and as we all know you aren't allowed to carry lighters or matches on airplanes. So far this year I haven't been stopped once for having a lighter or matches in my carry on bag. In fact, on one trip I forgot to take a 5 pack of BIC lighters out of my bag (short notice trip) and sent it straight through the scanner, no one said a word. Only time I was stopped so far this year was when I was carrying a defective part back from a supplier (about 2lbs worth of a steel). Had to explain to the TSA agent for about 30 minutes what it was.....he couldn't understand and just got frustrated and let me through

I also typically carry a pocket knife with me, not one of those rinky dink keychain ones either, in fact it's probably closer to a buck knife than a pocket knife. Any guesses on how many times I've been stopped for it being in my bag? That's right...a big fat 0.

In my opinion, TSA is a joke and security in US airports never makes me think twice. Now, I will say there are two areas in the world I make damn sure I don't have anything that a security agent would have to think twice about; Germany and Brazil. If you have been through an international airport in either of these countries you know what I mean. Security guards are posted every couple yards with automatic weapons and a "yeah I'm a bad ass" look on their faces. Now that, makes me think twice about what it's my bag. Japan is probably the only country with airport security that is more of a joke than the US. Only a select few of the security guards in Japan's airports even have guns, and if they do they are small caliber pistols that might leave a flesh wound, the rest just have big sticks....that's right, a 3 or 4 foot long wooden stick.

The fact that American citizens are willing to scarifice their rights under the guise of safety is appalling to me. I understand tragedies like 9/11 are deplorable and sympathize with everyone that was affected by it; however, fear begets fear. Does anyone want to die as the result of a terrorist act, I certainly don't think so but does that mean we should all cower in fear and trample on civil liberties because of it?
    
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You know X-ray is not safe right. Its stilla form of radiation. One that you dont normally get and its also a pretty large dose for such a quick exposure. But its safer so its all good.
do you know the dosage?
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Stupid and discriminating and .... eh.. as smart as a 5y.o with a brain-freeze trying to solve why poop don't fly when **** upside down...
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The fact that American citizens are willing to scarifice their rights under the guise of safety is appalling to me. I understand tragedies like 9/11 are deplorable and sympathize with everyone that was affected by it; however, fear begets fear. Does anyone want to die as the result of a terrorist act, I certainly don't think so but does that mean we should all cower in fear and trample on civil liberties because of it?
I don't really want to go into politics, but I hope once Bush leaves the office and gets replaced by a more competent man things will get better.
He used 9/11 as a pretext to go on a pillaging run in Iraq and to throw the whole country into a sense of insecurity to gain support for his actions.

To sum it up: you don't spy or your people and limit their freedom when such a thing happens any more than you spy on you child and forbid him to go outside after he fell and got a bruise on his knee.
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I don't really want to go into politics, but I hope once Bush leaves the office and gets replaced by a more competent man things will get better.
He used 9/11 as a pretext to go on a pillaging run in Iraq and to throw the whole country into a sense of insecurity to gain support for his actions.

To sum it up: you don't spy or your people and limit their freedom when such a thing happens any more than you spy on you child and forbid him to go outside after he fell and got a bruise on his knee.
Sadly the jokers running this time makes Bush look like a saint. /sigh
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Sadly the jokers running this time makes Bush look like a saint. /sigh
Ahahahahahahahahaha! I'm not even touching that with a 10-foot pole. I'll just wait for the admins to lock the thread.
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Oh, I'm sure they will. "Get paid to be a peeping-tom" should be the TSAs new hiring slogan.

I really hate these security measures that they put in place. All they do is inconvenience the honest people; the dishonest people can always get something past security and blow up/hijack the plane if they want to.
Freedom or security

pick one
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For work, I travel quite frequently, most being international trips so perhaps I can shed some perspective on this whole issue.

First, I smoke and as we all know you aren't allowed to carry lighters or matches on airplanes. So far this year I haven't been stopped once for having a lighter or matches in my carry on bag. In fact, on one trip I forgot to take a 5 pack of BIC lighters out of my bag (short notice trip) and sent it straight through the scanner, no one said a word. Only time I was stopped so far this year was when I was carrying a defective part back from a supplier (about 2lbs worth of a steel). Had to explain to the TSA agent for about 30 minutes what it was.....he couldn't understand and just got frustrated and let me through

I also typically carry a pocket knife with me, not one of those rinky dink keychain ones either, in fact it's probably closer to a buck knife than a pocket knife. Any guesses on how many times I've been stopped for it being in my bag? That's right...a big fat 0.

In my opinion, TSA is a joke and security in US airports never makes me think twice. Now, I will say there are two areas in the world I make damn sure I don't have anything that a security agent would have to think twice about; Germany and Brazil. If you have been through an international airport in either of these countries you know what I mean. Security guards are posted every couple yards with automatic weapons and a "yeah I'm a bad ass" look on their faces. Now that, makes me think twice about what it's my bag. Japan is probably the only country with airport security that is more of a joke than the US. Only a select few of the security guards in Japan's airports even have guns, and if they do they are small caliber pistols that might leave a flesh wound, the rest just have big sticks....that's right, a 3 or 4 foot long wooden stick.

The fact that American citizens are willing to scarifice their rights under the guise of safety is appalling to me. I understand tragedies like 9/11 are deplorable and sympathize with everyone that was affected by it; however, fear begets fear. Does anyone want to die as the result of a terrorist act, I certainly don't think so but does that mean we should all cower in fear and trample on civil liberties because of it?
Nice post, thanks for some perspective.. I haven't traveled in a plane since 9/11 (not out of fear, I just don't travel via plane that often.. probably only 4-5 times in my whole life) so I really don't have much to go on besides what people tell me.

Germany scares me in general, I don't know why lol.. maybe it is their atrocious gas prices.. XD although I had a German friend who was nice.. he said Turks kept raiding his neighborhood.. it sounded like a fairly hostile place.. quite a bit of racism where he lived. I'm sure there are good sections and not-so-good sections just like any country. Wow offtopic, sorry XD

I find it quite remarkable you never got stopped for your knife at any U.S. airport. The mass media make it seem like U.S. airport security will catch anything and everything.. o.o
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I'm completly against that idea, everyone is human and I'm sure that some people will abuse that in a way or another. TSA will get sued a lot because of that I'm sure.
    
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do you know the dosage?
Nope sorry I dont. I guess you may know something about radiation and its effects on people. Most general public gets the wrong idea on how it effects us. A larger dose will increase the risk of getting cancer from that radiation. However a small dose will still run you the risk of getting cancer its just the percentage is less for a smaller dose. Its still a needless increase in risk for what it is.

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Freedom or security

pick one
Not a true choice. It doesnt need to be that way. Well unless your the government but its there security not there freedom.
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