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95% of America doesn't know any better so that doesn't count.

How many people would still shop at Petland if they understood what puppy mills are? It all goes back to what the consumer is aware of. Of course there will be those who couldn't care less, but a lot of people would think twice if they knew the whole story.
You'd be surprised
Seriously though, I wouldn't. I've always been told the best place to get pure bread dogs are from people in the country that really don't make a living from it.....less inbreeding (I'm assuming that's what goes on in "puppy mills")
However my point was that the average consumer wants what's best for the family: their products at a cheap cost, while factoring in travel time/convenience.
I'm unaware of the things you stated WM practiced earlier, but none of them really sounded like a reason for me to avoid them.....maybe if there was a better competitor.
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Unfortunately, "smart business" almost always equals screwing over the masses. I haven't been to Walmart since I was 13-14, and my boy and I walked 2-3 miles through the foot hills at 11pm to go buy another controller for his N64 so we could play WCW vs NWO: Thunder together. In my mind I have always liked Walmart, but I know people who have worked there or do work there and some of their business practices are... disheartening. But, really, what big corporation doesn't do that? Their main goal is to make money, and that often involves stepping on or over people and exploiting everything you can get away with.
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Just what we need. A lower quality geeksquad

Hay, if I get in on that action, my area won't have that problem. lol.
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post #54 of 80
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You'd be surprised
Seriously though, I wouldn't. I've always been told the best place to get pure bread dogs are from people in the country that really don't make a living from it.....less inbreeding (I'm assuming that's what goes on in "puppy mills")
However my point was that the average consumer wants what's best for the family: their products at a cheap cost, while factoring in travel time/convenience.
I'm unaware of the things you stated WM practiced earlier, but none of them really sounded like a reason for me to avoid them.....maybe if there was a better competitor.
If none of what Wal-Mart does has any affect on your shopping habits then all I can say is "wow..."

As for your definition of what is "best" or "better" for a consumer, I would have to disagree pretty much entirely. Wal-Mart products are inferior, and that is why they are cheaper. So by default, pretty much any company with products that aren't as crappy would be a better competitor. If you don't think screwing over the little guy and completely ignoring corporate responsibility in a capitalist society are grounds for going elsewhere with your business, then I really don't know what to say. Where do you draw the line? Enron-like scandals? Or does the issue have to affect you directly before you care enough to do anything? There will always be scum in this world, and there will always be people who don't care unless the scum affects them. I have come to accept this, but I can go to sleep every night knowing I did not contribute to it.

As for puppy mills, inbreeding just skims the surface. Unlike the pile of filth that is Wal-Mart, puppy mills have no bearing on this thread so I'll just leave you with a link so you can garner more information yourself (and hopefully not be indifferent to it this time):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppy_mill

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Unfortunately, "smart business" almost always equals screwing over the masses. I haven't been to Walmart since I was 13-14, and my boy and I walked 2-3 miles through the foot hills at 11pm to go buy another controller for his N64 so we could play WCW vs NWO: Thunder together. In my mind I have always liked Walmart, but I know people who have worked there or do work there and some of their business practices are... disheartening. But, really, what big corporation doesn't do that? Their main goal is to make money, and that often involves stepping on or over people and exploiting everything you can get away with.
And it's that kind of attitude that lets it continue. Assuming you can't make a difference or that everyone is doing it is exactly why Wal-Mart gets away with it. It doesn't make it any less wrong or give you an excuse to support it by giving them your business.
Edited by stargate125645 - 6/8/08 at 9:17pm
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You'd be surprised
Seriously though, I wouldn't. I've always been told the best place to get pure bread dogs are from people in the country that really don't make a living from it.....less inbreeding (I'm assuming that's what goes on in "puppy mills")
Oh rly?
I bet those taste good with butter.
I think you meant pure bred.
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This is how I see the typical Wal-Mart employee approaching computers:

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Oh rly?
I bet those taste good with butter.
I think you meant pure bred.
Oh, heaven forbid when you get called out on misspelling something. It's pretty sad when it comes down to pointing out someone's spelling mistakes.
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Oh rly?
I bet those taste good with butter.
I think you meant pure bred.
ROFL I did mean pure bred.........I'm tired. Homophones FTW

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Originally Posted by stargate125645 View Post
If none of what Wal-Mart does has any affect on your shopping habits then all I can say is "wow..."

As for your definition of what is "best" or "better" for a consumer, I would have to disagree pretty much entirely. Wal-Mart products are inferior, and that is why they are cheaper. So by default, pretty much any company with products that aren't as crappy would be a better competitor. If you don't think screwing over the little guy and completely ignoring corporate responsibility in a capitalist society are grounds for going elsewhere with your business, then I really don't know what to say. Where do you draw the line? Enron-like scandals? Or does the issue have to affect you directly before you care enough to do anything? There will always be scum in this world, and there will always be people who don't care unless the scum affects them. I have come to accept this, but I can go to sleep every night knowing I did not contribute to it.

As for puppy mills, inbreeding just skims the surface. Unlike the pile of filth that is Wal-Mart, puppy mills have no bearing on this thread so I'll just leave you with a link so you can garner more information yourself (and hopefully not be indifferent to it this time):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppy_mill

And it's that kind of attitude that lets it continue. Assuming you can't make a difference or that everyone is doing it is exactly why Wal-Mart gets away with it. It doesn't make it any less wrong or give you an excuse to support it by giving them your business.
I'm not saying that their actions can't affect my shopping habits, but I haven't heard of any of the negative press that you speak of besides the "driving mom and pop stores out of business" rhetoric. That's valid in smaller towns, but there is still a market for smaller grocery stores in medium to large cities.

As far as product quality goes, the things I buy are the same as the other store, i. e. food and commodities. I don't buy electronics, clothes, or hardware (well most hardware) at Wal-Mart. I don't buy furniture there for sure
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Geek Squad: "I'm afraid we're gonna have to replace your whole computer sir."

Customer: "But why? What's wrong with it?"

Geek Squad: "The CD-ROM drive wasn't connected properly."
not really that funny, nor accurate, and I used to work at Geek Squad in HS, its not that bad. its reputation among geeks like us is way exaggerated. a lot of the people don't know what the **** they are doing but there were some people (like me) who were A+ certified and knew their ****.

that being said, i didn't really enjoy all the noobs who put a high end (at that time like a 7900/X1900) GFX into their old dell and *****ing about it to me, while i patiently explained to them how retarded they were (sugarcoatedly and extending our profit margins, of course)
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Can it get worse than geeksquad???
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