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i know there are many threads about this but i want one specific to me...


for my new build shoulld i do vista x64 or XP x64?
i game and will OC
those are my main focuses.

i heard alot of the issues with vista are gone but i heard there are still alot of issues...
which is better?
i have 8 gb ram so thats not in issue on the version.
You should go with XP x64, it is the far better OS. I use it, with gaming and OCing being my main focuses as well, and I also have 8gb of RAM. Things couldn't be going better. Bottom line, XP x64 is faster than Vista, more secure, and a much more solid OS. If you absolutely need DX10, then you could use Vista, but if not, I strongly suggest going with XP x64. The posters that are saying it is bad appear to be either inexperienced and/or simply mistaken. I have asked them some specific questions, to help clarify the issues they claim. Watch as they will most likely not provide answers, or the answers will be vague and evasive of the question, or be wrong.

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when going 64bits, it's Vista all the way; XP x64 was never a full blown release and the drivers are scarce...
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vista64 has more support over xp64, which helps alot ... not many diver issues like with xp64
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another for vista 64 only because there is much more support and drivers than there is for XP 64
Zeag, rRav3n, and JerseyDubbin.

1. Can any of you provide specific examples (manufacturer and model number) of hardware that has driver support in Vista 64, but does not have driver support in XP x64?

2. How many of you have even used XP x64?

3. If you have used XP x64, please try and provide a timeframe of when you used it, being as specific as possible. The hardware configuration you used it with, and the hardware and software that did not work, but does work in Vista 64, would also be good information.
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now im thoroughly confused because 003 just brought up a great point.
the only real factual reason that i want vista is because its newer and i like the layout and such
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I only recommend Vista because of the DX10 support and that some games will only work with Vista now, but other than that, I would go with WinXP any day.
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why xp and other than vista only games. what really uses dx10 and not dx9
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my vote is for vista 64. you can utilize more ram, is just as fast as xp, and has DX10 support for gaming. why take a step backwards?
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Vista x64, = Good OS. Ive switched from XP x86 to Vista x64 and it runs great no problems.
 
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my vote is for vista 64. you can utilize more ram, is just as fast as xp, and has DX10 support for gaming. why take a step backwards?
XP x64 supports 128GB of RAM. The only 64-bit version of Vista 64 that supports 128GB of RAM is Ultimate. The other ones only support 32gb or something like that. And it is actually slower than XP. You're only accurate point here is DX10, which the OP may or may not need/want.
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wats big about dx10. y would it be needed?
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You should go with XP x64, it is the far better OS. I use it, with gaming and OCing being my main focuses as well, and I also have 8gb of RAM. Things couldn't be going better. Bottom line, XP x64 is faster than Vista, more secure, and a much more solid OS. If you absolutely need DX10, then you could use Vista, but if not, I strongly suggest going with XP x64. The posters that are saying it is bad appear to be either inexperienced and/or simply mistaken. I have asked them some specific questions, to help clarify the issues they claim. Watch as they will most likely not provide answers, or the answers will be vague and evasive of the question, or be wrong.

Zeag, rRav3n, and JerseyDubbin.

1. Can any of you provide specific examples (manufacturer and model number) of hardware that has driver support in Vista 64, but does not have driver support in XP x64?

2. How many of you have even used XP x64?

3. If you have used XP x64, please try and provide a timeframe of when you used it, being as specific as possible. The hardware configuration you used it with, and the hardware and software that did not work, but does work in Vista 64, would also be good information.
Pretty bold claim stating that the posters above were inexperienced when some of them are the most prolific contributors on the site. There are many flaws with your post but let me point out the most obvious one.

There is nothing wrong with Vista x64 when compared to XP x64. In no way shape or form is XP superior to Vista and you seem to have spent a lot of time defending XP but not a lot of time on the offensive. When we now consider the following facts:

1) Vista is supported by Windows update and will be complemented by service packs in the future.
2) Subjective but Vista looks better as consensus.
3) Vista's networking features are far superior to XPs.
4) Vista supports DX10 gaming.
5) Vista is more responsive than XP. Far more responsive.

After all that is taken into account, why on earth would you get XP again?

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XP x64 supports 128GB of RAM. The only 64-bit version of Vista 64 that supports 128GB of RAM is Ultimate. The other ones only support 32gb or something like that. And it is actually slower than XP. You're only accurate point here is DX10, which the OP may or may not need/want.
Thanks again for arguing the hypothetical. The poster whom you quoted said that Vista utilizes more of the ram. This was not fallacy on his part but true. He did not mention how much ram is SUPPORTED. And regardless your point is moot because there is no consumer motherboard that supports 32GB at the moment.
Edited by NrGx - 6/9/08 at 4:19pm
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wats big about dx10. y would it be needed?
Well, you need it to run 3DMark Vantage. It is supposed to support new graphical features, which it does. But no games really use them yet. For example, you can only play Crysis in Very High quality mode in Vista because it's supposed to make use of DX10.

But there is a hack to make it work in XP, and it turns out, they look exactly the same. You also need Vista to crossfire or SLI more than two video cards. AFAIK, no games in the making or already out require DX10 to run, but I may be wrong. It's you're choice, really.
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