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hello all:

My current rig is in my sig. I'm looking to upgrade to an Intel quad core - primarily for gaming. Would like highly overclockable cpu, Mobo, and memory. I'm will to spend a few dollars on an outstanding mobo.

I'm thinking a Q6600 quad core (Q6700?)

For mobo I don't need SLI but want to re-use my eVGA 8800 GTS 640Mb. I would like it to be DDR3 capable, but initially want to buy DDR2.
I want to reuse my raptors in RAID 0. I'm going to watercool with existing equipment.

Please recommend cpu, mobo, and memory.

Thanks
post #2 of 11
Any particular reason your thinking quad?

If it's primarily for Gaming...you will probably be better off with an E8400 or E8500. There a little less then the Q6600 or Q6700 and they will perform better then a quad with any game out there at present. The only benefit you are going to have w/ a quad at present...is a higher 3dmark score.

I'm actually getting rid of my quad and picking up a dual that will OC better and play games better.
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this motherboard

is made for Quad core OC.
    
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Originally Posted by clbkdaz View Post
Any particular reason your thinking quad?

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I'm actually getting rid of my quad and picking up a dual that will OC better and play games better.
That's the kind of feedback I'm looking for. What do others think about quad vs dual core "primarily for gaming? I do process some home video, put not often. How about a mobo and memory?

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Originally Posted by A Russian :D View Post
this motherboard

is made for Quad core OC.
Does it do DDR3? I want to be as future proof as possible.
post #5 of 11
It isn't the good time to use DDR3 now because it doesn't give you any performnace boost at much higher price. By early next year, I think you can get the DDR3 at half price as of now, lower Latency, good timing and more options. Depending on your budget, Gigabyte P35-DS3R or X38-DS4 is pretty good.
Edited by linskingdom - 6/10/08 at 4:22am
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linskingdom speaks much wisdom.

You mention video 'processing' & futureproof. You would surely benefit from a Quad CPU then. If you are willing to spend the money, the performance from a Q6700 to a QX9650 is utterly amazing. My QX9650 is not lapped and is being cooled by a TRUE at 4GHz@1.28v folding 24/7. Temps run in the 50s, sometimes jumps into the low 60s especially with the hotter air moving in for the summer... By the way, this is on a P35-DS3L with the 2x2GB G-Skill kit that everyone has.
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post #7 of 11
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I was thinking to get a mobo that was DDR3 capable, but purchase DDR2 for the reasons stated. However, I can be "educated" out of that line of reasoning. GREAT feedback so far.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyL222 View Post
I was thinking to get a mobo that was DDR3 capable, but purchase DDR2 for the reasons stated. However, I can be "educated" out of that line of reasoning. GREAT feedback so far.
I'm not entirely familiar with the DDR3/DDR2 boards available atm. A quick search on the egg shows there are a number of them. Alot of ASUS, MSI and ASRock with a couple DFI's included in there. I'm probably not the best to comment on those since I've never really built with those (I'm partial to the Nvidia reference boards).

With the outrageous costs I'm seeing for DDR3...and the overall "unimpressed" reviews I've heard on the price vs. performance increase...I would probably stick with a higher-end DDR2. I know a ton of folk here like the Crucial Ballistix and OCZ's...


As to future-proof the system...It depends on how long you think you will be using this same set-up. I bought a Q6600 back in November for nearly $300. Today the egg sells the same (actually better because mine is a B3) for about $189. The new Q9XXX series is out and 45nm chips are the buzz. Although my Q6XXX is still fine, in a little more then 6 months... a totally new generation of CPU's is out.
The point is...if you are thinking about future-proofing your system for more then a year from now....there will be harder, better, faster, stronger (thank you Daft Punk) chips on the market when applications start using 4 cores. Heck - when the applications start using 4-cores, I'm sure we will have moved on to 12-core CPU's.

So -I would pick your CPU budget (lets just say $275) and then decide which one works better for you NOW...and not worry about what the industry might do in the future.
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post #10 of 11
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Thanks for your reply. By "future proof" I mean that as much of the systems is reusable with upgrades say 1.5 - 2 years down the road. I know that the costs will drop.

Bsed on your feedback and reading through other threads, I'm thinking of:

CPU - Q6700
Mobo - Asus Maxiumus II Formula (not yet released)

....with some very OC'able memory (TBD).
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