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Originally Posted by stargate125645 View Post
Wouldn't surprise me with their recent theatrics, but what's done is done. I'm going ATI next regardless of how well the GTX performs because of Nvidia's recent behavior. Let's just hope my motherboard doesn't realize it has an ATI card plugged in and try to develop an auto-immune disease.
Hehe......Abort? Retry? Epic Fail?
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post #32 of 46
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I guess you don't know the true story of DX10 then do you? Yes MS has loads of $$ without nvidia's help but when the market leader of GPUs puts pressure on you, you will do as you were told
Microsoft
Revenue ▲ US $51.12 billion (2007)[7]
Operating income ▲ US $18.25 billion (2007)[7]
Net income ▲ US $14.06 billion (2007)[7]
Employees 79,000 in 105 countries (2007)[8]


NVidia
Industry Semiconductors- Specialized
Products Graphics processing units
motherboard-chipsets
Revenue ▲$4.1 Billion USD (2007)
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Employees over 4,985 (as of June 2008)
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I'm pretty sure Microsoft does what they want, with no pressure from NVidia.

It's a shame that DirectX has gone from a good API to a marketing tool.
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Oh yeah! So now u accuse MS of being nVidia puppets, that's nice. I bet MS have decent amount of profit on their own, so that's just ridiculous.

As for DX 10.1 it is getting ridiculous, stop this ATI bull****, there 0 apps supporting it. Is it good or bad, that's different story. but for now the fact that ATI support 10.1 gives them nothing except marketing toy.
Yea, there's zero DX10.1 apps NOW. Why don't you ask Nvidia what happened there? I do agree with you, though, a 20% real world performance boost was just a marketing toy.
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As good as high-end DX9 games look (GRID, HL: Ep 2, etc) how do they plan on getting a huge boost with DX11? DX10 doesn't look much better, and is too hardware intensive. DX11 may end up being more of the same, but I really don't know what more they plan on advancing. Heck, isn't MGS4 built on the same OpenGL that ran alongside DX9?
DX10 doesn't look much better because noone has developed real DX10 games yet. Vista market share is too low to justify a DX10-only release so they've implemented effects that could easily be done with DX9 (hence XP users being able to play 'DX10' games with some trickery).

DX10 is actually a major change to the entire API, and it's the main reason Nvidia went for a unified shader architecture.
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shouldn't this be in software news?
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it's hardware as well software news, no DirectX 11 will work without DirectX 11 graphic cards.
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Hell, if that's the case, then let's put all hardware news in the software news section too!!! Yeah, what a great argument!
PM a mod instead of going off topic in the thread.
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PM a mod instead of going off topic in the thread.
But aren't you doing the same thing you accuse them of doing by posting that?
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builds on the existing DirectX 10 API set and adds new features including tessellation, multithreaded rendering, compute shaders, Shader Model 5, and more.
finally
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DX10 doesn't look much better because noone has developed real DX10 games yet. Vista market share is too low to justify a DX10-only release so they've implemented effects that could easily be done with DX9 (hence XP users being able to play 'DX10' games with some trickery).

DX10 is actually a major change to the entire API, and it's the main reason Nvidia and ATI went for a unified shader architecture.
Slightly fixed but otherwise completely dead-on.
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Yes lets jump to Dx11 when Dx10 hasn't even taken off yet. Yes that's the right idea.
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But aren't you doing the same thing you accuse them of doing by posting that?
As are you. And me, now, too. Crap...
    
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